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Coralline Algae : Growth Stopped

6.2K views 11 replies 5 participants last post by  Nate_Bro  
#1 ·
Tank: 300 Litre + 100 Litre sump.
Cured Live Rock Added: 6/11/2014
Fish: x2 Occelaris Clownfish, x2 Tiny Yellow Coral Gobies, x1 Small Pijama Cardi
Inverts: Nassarius snails, 4 Small turbos.


Equipment:
Skimmer - Bubble Magus NAC 6
Phosphate Reactor - running small amount of GFO
Algae Scrubber DIY - added today (to reduce display algae)
Carbon Dosing - started 24/11/2014

Currently Dosing 18.4 ml / day (maybe can reduce now, vinegar)

Hello All,
Ok, so I wan't to get my parameters all nice and pretty and eliminate the GHA in my display, it's reduced a lot since carbon dosing.

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I checked my parameters today and nitrate is zero. Gradually reduced throughout the carbon dosing, currently at 18.4ml, should I now reduce this?

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Phosphate 'appears' to be zero (i.e the GHA is eating any present in the water column).

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My Magnesium appears to have dropped over time? It needs buffering right?

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pH originally was at 7.8, boosted to 8.1 with x2 pure kalk additions, and over the month has reduced back down to 7.8 again. Too low?

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Calcium, increase due to Kalk, then seems to be strangely fluctuating. I'd expect it to reduce as coralline grows. It was growing great in the first few weeks of setting up the tank then just stopped as GHA took over ?

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Alkalinity seems to be on a constant decline.

On the 16th and 17th of November, I added a dose of 1650 ml saturated KALK WASSER each day, so a total of 3.3 Litres. Which may have caused a swing, and had gradually burned away over time, back to default params before adding it. The reason for adding was to buffer the parameters.

Why has my coralline algae growth stopped? Should I be dosing calc, or adjusting Mg, Alk ?

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#2 ·
how are you adding the saturated KALK WASSER, is it running through an ATO type system, or are you dumping it in, or are you dripping it in? what are your water changes like, and what corals are in the tank, and how much?

do you have a current tank picture?

do you have a sandbed, if so, how deep and what kind of sand?


there are lots of factors when it comes to coralline algae growth, flow, light, nutrients, Ca, Alk, SG, pH and so on... if any of these things are changed, even in the slightest it can cause the coraline to slow growth, stop growing, or even cause a die off of coraline.


How fast was the coraline growing before, and was anything changed in the tank as far as flow or lighting?
 
#8 ·
how are you adding the saturated KALK WASSER, is it running through an ATO type system, or are you dumping it in, or are you dripping it in? what are your water changes like, and what corals are in the tank, and how much?

do you have a current tank picture?

do you have a sandbed, if so, how deep and what kind of sand?

there are lots of factors when it comes to coralline algae growth, flow, light, nutrients, Ca, Alk, SG, pH and so on... if any of these things are changed, even in the slightest it can cause the coraline to slow growth, stop growing, or even cause a die off of coraline.

How fast was the coraline growing before, and was anything changed in the tank as far as flow or lighting?
I added the kalk manually to buffer levels prior to adding fish. I no longer use it, calc levels don't drop so I haven't added it again.

Sand bed approximately 1 to 2cm deep.

It was growing quickly to begin with then GHA took a foot hold and it stopped?
 
#3 ·
How old is the tank? Seems you are adding a lot of things to try to establish perfect, but dealing with the adverse effects of the dosing. I don't know much about Carbon dosing. Found the risks to high for me.

My advise would be to stop all dosing. Do some water changes on a schedule. Let your tank go through the uglies and come to a balance. It took my tank six months before Coraline would grow.
 
#7 ·
looks like you have a phosphate problem, and the carbon dosing is just going to make it worse. if you are having to boost your pH, then the bacteria are cranking, usually from waste organic material, detritus. how often do you siphon out detritus?

coralline has stopped because the LR is becoming saturated with phosphates. carbon dosing is stripping the P out of the water column giving you false readings. the bacteria in the LR are being starved because the bacteria in the water column have all of the resources. once P becomes bound to the LR, coralline and other hermatypic organisms can not perform photosynthesis properly. they need to trade calcium carbonate with the base structure in order to provide CO2 as a carbon source for photosynthesis.

what are you using to get those values? do you have digital instruments? i would be interested in those. i am guessing from the graph that you can only read phosphates to a resolution of 0.05ppm. not quite enough resolution to be super useful, but a good ball park. i would like 0.01 resolution.

G~
 
#12 ·
yep, your LR is full of phosphate.

G~
Time to get cook'n!

if indeed your rocks are full of bound PO4 (and I would agree with Geoff that they are) its time to purge the rocks and free the PO4.

whats the story on the rocks prior to you putting them in your tank? do you know any history of them?