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And there are so many hands out. My property taxes out in the county on 15 acres are less than half what same size house on city lot cost but the State of Oregon taxes everything else. Its crazy. $3.30 tax on pack of cigs, they added $2 a pack tax last year with the money supposed to got to Or Health Authority for anti smoking campaign and treat lund disease. Then they changed there mind and it all goes in the General Fund, same with the steep tax on recreational pot was supposed to go to drug treatment and mental health, Ya Right, that's a bust, instead they legalized generous personal amounts of all drugs including heroin and fentanyl. $100 ticket, that is waived if you sign up for rehab. In 2 years less than 100 have taken treatment, and no one gets arrested for not paying the fine or appearing in court :( This is why the streets of Portland and a lot of places are full of homeless living in tents all over and using the sidewalks as a toilet in spite of spending millions to combat the problem. Our new governor wants 1.3 BILLION to address the issue:( :(
 

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The liberals are making all our problems worse. It’s no longer about helping the victims. They just make excuses for the criminals. I know not to get too political here.
It cheaper to buy weed on the street then to buy in a legal shop. I only know because I went into a shop in Albuquerque while on vacation. It’s still illegal here in Louisiana and you only get a ticket for 1/2 oz or less here. Medical is legal here and I have been approved by my oncologist but haven’t taken them up on it. Lol
 

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My wife has a prescription and uses medical Marijuana as an oil that you put under your tongue. It's about $400.00 for like a half an ounce.

I can't comment on Liberals or I would get banned and tar and feathered :oops:
 

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Ya its really a mess, if it was legal on Fed level I could get her RSO oil, its cheaper than gas here :(
Believe me it is hard to bite my tongue with the Lib antics. Remember when the manta was "We don't want special rights, just equal rights( insert cough scene from original Top Gun
 

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I can fix this in 5 minutes but they won't let me. I believe, like my ancestors did that if you can work and you don't want to, you should starve. This is a big beautiful country and if you have been out west you will see that we have a lot of un used land to build cemeteries on.

I also have a thought on crime, especially career criminals and it is simple and cheap. If you commit 3 crimes that hurt or steal from people you get capital punishment. We can make a mistake once, maybe twice, but not three times. Right after the trial, they take you out and shoot you so we don't have to feed you. You can even pick your means of execution as long as it is cheap.

If your lawyer complains after you have been convicted of your third offence, he can go with you. :rolleyes:

It's fast, cheap, simple and empties out the prisons. On the news yesterday there was a guy convicted of mugging, car jacking, breaking and entering etc, 167 times and he is still out. And thats only how many times he was caught. Why do we need people like this?
 

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I have almost all the rocks out of my tank with just a few left to make the fish at home...Kind of although they are getting the horrors..

I also mixed about 110 gallons of ASW. Most of my live rock is still live in vats of NSW so I won't lose the life on those. The biggest piece I couldn't save 100%. It has a lot of sponge on it so I have it outside in the air. I am hoping the 30 degree weather as well as the air freezes the sponge. That shouldn't kill all the bacteria but even if it does, there is plenty left and I am not removing the gravel.

In a couple of days I will heat all the water I just made and all in one fell swoop (that will take all day, I will remove all the corals, fish and remaining rock. Stir up the gravel and siphon it out. Then add everything back and glue all the corals back.

That will be tough because I had to cut all the very old gorgonians off the rocks and now they are not branching any more so I have a lot of single pieces to glue which may take more than a full day.

Now I can catch that big Koran Angelfish that no one wants and bring it to a LFS for their show tank.

I got my neighbor to help me lift the biggest rock as I was afraid of dropping it. :)

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I didn't realize I had so many fish and I even found this guy who I haven't seen since the day I put him in. I thought he croaked or jumped out someplace but he is fine and even colored up more. After I put the rocks back in, I am sure I will never see him again. :confused:



I couldn't save 2 of the anemones because they went into a hole in large rocks and I couldn't get them out. I found one of my fish in a bucket of rock that jumped out when I removed the rock, but he is fine.

Grand Kids are coming over today so I can't do anything but I plan on Tuesday or wednesday to do the big switch and put everything back.

I am not sure if the stress will affect the fish so maybe I will throw some Prozac in the water just to make sure. :giggle:
 

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I just found this "hunting" story on another site from 2 years ago.

Once on an LZ a deer walked out of a clearing about 100 yards away. We normally ate C Rations and since we had a lot of Red Necks with us some of them decided to shoot the thing and one of then would cook it.

About a dozen of them started firing at the poor creature who just stood there in Awe. M-16s fully automatic, grenade launchers and I think one of them fired at it with a 60 caliper machine gun.

The deer eventually walked away. I said, "Please, if we get attacked here, you guys stand behind me so I can actually shoot something" . ;)
 

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I am not sure my fish will survive through all this as it is a big change to go from real water that is very old to brand new ASW but we will see. If the tank crashes, and there is a real possibility of that, I will still consider it a success. Of course the fish may not see it exactly like that. :(

I am trying as hard as I can with what I know and the time constraints I have in doing this to keep everything alive and not killing the important bacteria and pods that keep the tank healthy.

My many pod eaters may have to go on a diet for a couple of weeks and I hope they can find enough to eat but it is what it is and I am doing the best I can.

I just went downstairs to check the tank because I was concerned with all the fish in there there may not be enough bacteria left to keep the water healthy. But they are fine and happy looking, some of them are doing the Macarena. :D

The very large rock I have outside is frozen and the sponges on it look like ice cubes so I can "assume" the nasty stuff is dead. Now I have to scrape off the dead, frozen sponge and rinse it off in salt water to get it ready to go back in.

If I was not afraid this sponge would take over the ocean here, I would bring all the sponge encrusted rocks to the sea and scrape and wash them off in the sea.

I won't do that but that would be the best thing. :cool:
 

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Tomorrow is the day I remove all the fish, dump out the water and re fill the tank and re aquascape. I have to go and get ashes first as it is Ash Wednesday and that is my wife's Idea. If I don't take her she will go by herself and I don't need her mad at me on a very busy day when my tanks life is in the balance. This will be very difficult, moving all this water and rocks around and keeping it all warm, aerated and "happy for the 12 or so hours it will take.

Then another day or two to glue back all the corals, mostly gorgonians. I purposely didn't feed the fish yesterday to limit wastes and today, if the rain lets up a little I would like to go down to the sea to pick up some barnacle encrusted rocks to temporarily add to my tank for the fresh bacteria.

This is a good time for that because I killed a lot of bacteria on the heavily sponge encrusted rocks I had to bleach. :oops:
 

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I did have to bleach about half of my rocks. I initially had a 10 gallon bucket of rocks in seawater but because of time constraints, it was in there to long and thy turned black from hydrogen sulfide so I had to bleach them. I still have about 15lbs of rock and all the gravel that I didn't do anything to and are still in seawater. There is still sponge growing on the glass which I will remove when I remove the water.

Right now I am heating the 120 gallons of water for tomorrow's big event :D
 

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I have two 40 gallon tubs and some 5 gallon buckets full of live rock and a bunch I had to bleach. I also have my diatom filter filled with powder because I am not removing the gravel and it will be full of detritus and I don't want to remove all of it.

The first thing I will do is partially empty the tank and catch all the fish and remaining corals. I hope I can find all of them. :oops:
 

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I got everything back in the tank and everything looks good. The fish are hunting for food and so far I didn't lose anything.

This only took me 7 hours and I have more live rock left over than I started with. Like 3 five gallon buckets. :D

I have my big angel fish in a bucket and I almost lost him. I noticed the water looked very funky and it smelled. I could see sparks under the water. The heater broke.

Luckily it was only for a minute or so and being I am an electrician my fish don't care about electricity in their water. :rolleyes:
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I didn't see my tank yet this morning and I won't be able to do much because I have a thousand "paper" cuts on my hands from the tiny tube worms on the rocks. And I wore gloves. :confused:

Today, if he is still alive I will bring that Koran Angel to a LFS and hope he takes it.
I had my diatom filter running all night for the fine particles floating all over which looks like powder.

Unless of course my fish are so annoyed at me that they are doing cocaine. I hope not. :oops:

I realized last night that there is nothing in the tank for my large, very old urchin to eat so I will get some clams and lettuce, his two favorite foods.

I also hope my 4 pipefish, 2 mandarins and 3 ruby reds find enough pods because the tank is really clean now. Much to clean but I had to do this to get all that sponge out and unfortunately, the algae and food sources went with it. I will throw a bunch of sinking pellets in there to feed the pods.

After I put the rocks and water back in I ran my Diatom filter 7 times to clean it up. I really don't know how people stay in this hobby without one. I could never survive.

I think I went through maybe 8 of them in the years I have been doing this.

One good thing, I found this guy who I haven't seen since I put him in. He seems happy and healthy.


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My Koran Angel is alive and well so I can take him to his new home. My tank looks good but a little bare from all the rocks I didn't put in. I will add a few of then but not to many. My reef is now a lacework of open spaces and I kind of like it. It has very open rock work which wasn't easy to do and doing that unfortunately makes the aquascape very prone to collapsing as none of the rocks are touching the back glass.

Taking my wife to her Dr. now so I will try to take pictures later.
 
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