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Reefkeeping made easy- what was not explained.

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here are a few threads that were started in another forum about what is going on in our system. hopefully some of you all will read the information here and start to get a handle on what makes our systems work or not work. I know this may require some reading and those on the internet are allergic to reading threads that are not theirs, but give this thread a go. I am hoping that it will answer most of the questions you may have about reefkeeping. these first three posts may be a bit disjointed. as they came from the other thread. I will try and edit them so that they flow a bit better and lead into each other better.

the biggest things we will be discussing in this thread are the biological process that are going on in our systems. these biological process are what most of the false information that is out there is about. this includes reef forums and LFS. The two main elemental processes we will be discussing are the Nitrogen and Phosphate cycles that are occurring in our systems. these two elements lead to the greatest confusion about what is going on in our little slices of ocean.

There will be a lot of information in this thread. I will be linking to other threads with even more reading and papers on the subject at hand for even further reading. This hobby is easy if you understand what is going on, if you do not care to understand what is going on and listen to a lot of false information out there, then this hobby can be very frustrating and lots of wasted money.
I would anybody to ask questions if they need clarifications. I will try and keep things as short as possible to keep the reading down to a minimum, but some of this stuff is fairly long winded in general.

G~

UPDATE

A sort of Table of Contents for the thread. please feel free to PM any subjects or pages i should add to the contents.

Introduction: Page 1
Nitrogen cycle: Pages 1-2, 22
Phosphates: Page 3, 31
Sources of Phosphates: Page 3
Phosphate Cycle Graphics: Page 35
Early Tank Processes: Page 30
Problems with Sand: Page 4, 19
Sandbed Cleaning:page 7
DSB's: Page 9
BB Alternatives: Page 25
About LR: Page 8
LR Purging: Page 19, 26
Cured LR: Page 23
Tank Flow: Page 7
Light: Pages 13-15
Kalkwasser: Page 12, 17
Feeding: Pages 17-19
Zoax: Pages 15-17
Carbon Dosing: Pages 24-25
Tank Self Feeding: Page 27
Conservation of Matter: Page 28
Beer!: Pages 6-7
Bad Experts: Page 19
Definitions according to Spanky: Page 21
My Reference Links: Page 37
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ok, here come the links. i have broken them down into very rough categories. i will make a post per category.

G~
Yup... I might "disappear" from the forum for a couple days...

That is AWEsome!!

I don't even know where to begin... I tried throwing a dart at the screen to pick which one I should do first... :funny:
ok, that is all of the ones from this computer. i am not sure i have any different ones on my other machine but i will check. i have been trying to consolidate them.

i will add bookmark updates every so often.

happy reading,

G~
Yup... I might "disappear" from the forum for a couple days...

That is AWEsome!!

I don't even know where to begin... I tried throwing a dart at the screen to pick which one I should do first... :funny:
just tried that, had to get a spare monitor, I would recommend the suction cup darts, not the steel points :(

that's a great list G~ I have looked over a few and wow lots of great stuff (makes me wish spanky was still around)
several of these are pdf's, so i am not sure how long they will stay as links. i have already lost one, but found one similar and supplied the link to it. i think i have several of them saved on my machine because i was unsure how long they would be linkable.

G~
several of these are pdf's, so i am not sure how long they will stay as links. i have already lost one, but found one similar and supplied the link to it. i think i have several of them saved on my machine because i was unsure how long they would be linkable.

G~
I'll run my archiver on this link page once I get home, I don't want to loose this info!
ok, bringing this thread back for a bit of added info.

lets talk about food supply to the reef. i know a fair amount of you may have already seen this in other posts, but lets get this added to this thread.

we have been told that all of those sand critters are supplying food for the reef. that does not appear to be what is going on in the wild. it would appear that majority food source for the reef comes from the incoming tide. here is an excerpt from this article that points to this, although the main part of the article is not necessarily about this.

"Fish were always most abundant on the incurrent side of the reef and within an archway during the day."

it would be my understanding that if the critters in a sand bed were producing large amounts of food for the reef then the outgoing tide would see the most fish present in the water column feeding. the outgoing tide being the tide exposed most to sand. the incoming tide would be open ocean water.

any thoughts? any other articles?

G~
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good observation there ~G, I know when the tide goes out it takes away a lot of sand, and the wave action brings it back... (from places I have seen)
there is a thread where Spanky mentions this. of course it is not expanded on during the discussion because that is not what the thread was about. i need to see if i can find that small tidbit of info from him.

i need to read through that entire article at some point to figure out exactly what the plankton they are seeing is. we know that it takes a while for most of the critters on the reef to grow up enough to have a chance of fighting for a spot on the reef. the only thing i can think of is that the reef wants to feed on these larger food bits, then the very tiny bits that could be coming from the outgoing tide.

G~
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