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hi everyone! I have a question. hope you can advise me.

someone is selling his/her reef tank complete red sea 130 with live rock and some fish and invertebs. its really bargain but the whole thing would need to travel somehow ca. 100-150 km between our places. i have some experience with tropical aquarium. reef tank was always a dream shall i grab the bargain? or would it turn out to be a nightmare since I do not know the tank set up/history etc.

I am very tempted ... have to admit

thanks for suggestions and advice :)
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How far is 100 - 150 km in miles?sorry I'm lazy to look it upMy guess your not near me.I'd help.but buy me a two way plane ticket and I'm there!
hi i am in uk !!! :) but in my home country we use metric system. its about 65-100 miles, rather closer to a 100. shall i go for it? I am checking the species they suppose to have and not sure all is compatible. would I need to transport the water as well? more i think about more mission impossible it appears to be....
How far is 100 - 150 km in miles?sorry I'm lazy to look it upMy guess your not near me.I'd help.but buy me a two way plane ticket and I'm there!
1 mile = 1.609344 kilometers

So you are looking at moving it between 75 - 100 mi. I think LOL

Not unheard of, I moved my 75g over 100 mi. 2 X.

The main thing is to keep the temp. steady.

The size tank and type of living things you will have to move will be a huge factor.
I'd have lots of salt water made up ahead of time at your destination.
hi i am in uk !!! :) but in my home country we use metric system. its about 65-100 miles, rather closer to a 100. shall i go for it? I am checking the species they suppose to have and not sure all is compatible. would I need to transport the water as well? more i think about more mission impossible it appears to be....
You will need to have some water to keep things alive but I wouldn't use it when I arived at the new location.
+1,have alot of salt water made up and up to temp were it's going,have buckets with your rocks and corals and fish in differnt ones and the rest is moving and do a little cleanning as your ready to setup.
Sorry not sure what you mean - new salt water at my side (final destination) is okay? and their water only to transport the animals, rock and sand? that way would be easier, sort of. apparently there is a starfish there !!! i know starfish can be a bit of problem... otherwise clownfish, wrasse, green chromis, filefish some snails and shrimp. how to keep the steady temperature during transportation? and what to do to reduce stress to animals?
what would i need to have except water to set it up in my place? i do not have any spare tank now, can i just put everything and everyone back in to red sea tank and hope for the best?
You can pick up a new rubbermade trash can to make up your new water in. I wouldn't reuse much if any of the old water. And I would avoid using the old sand. How long has it been set up?
Hey Kathryn, Howdy, that's an ambitious project under the best of circumstances and in all honestly not one I would recommend for a new to the hobby type with out help from one or more experienced people.
There's just so many things that can go wrong, things may be exaggerated or not what they are represented to be, etc etc.
IF the tank and equipment is a bargain considering the distances involved and you can deal with the losses should things go awry, maybe
IF you go into the project knowing you may be starting over.
You might inquire as to best price if they farm the livestock out to a local shop or hobbyist and then just buy and transport the tank. In my experience whole setups can be done, but it takes at least a couple if not more people working all the details at both ends, timing is critical, and without a ready to go holding container at the destination, mission odds are approaching the hope and prayer point.
if you do go ahead, please post pictures, as i think there are more people interested to see how it's done
I am only just realising how ambitious it is - thanks for all your tips. yeah of course I would prefer animals survive this ordeal but in a way you HAVE to prepared for losses, sad thing to say. I will try to approach these people in a way we can talk things through. I dont want to sound patronising but I might want their animals to survive more than they do ... so i thought the worst case scenario I will end up with second hand but good quality (and what they say ca. 2 yrs old) marine tank and one day might start from scratch. In a current set up it seems there are no corals, only live rock/sand, fish and invertebs. Having these animals already would I be able to start growing corals? isnt their tank a bit overcrowded 130 lts and 10 fish plus invertebs?

Yeah that the point I am on my own so no second pair of hands and another head to think :) so hesitating is an understatement :) but whatever I decide this might push me finally in to reef tank.

regards
this set up was apparently done ca 2 years ago. can i use their rock?
this set up was apparently done ca 2 years ago. can i use their rock?
If they don't have corals, you may want to ask about the lighting. If your goal is to have corals, lighting can be an expense you would need to prepare for.
It should be OK to use the rock ... hopefully you can see the tank fully set up and check it for aptasia, hair algae, etc. If any are present you will want to scrub or boil the rock.

Good luck :-D

Curious: does "ca." mean about?
here's what i would do:

get the following
- small truck
- two big containers (that fit at least 50% of the total water each) (or 4 if they get too big)
- enough blankets to insulate the containers, and protect your aquarium/stand
- 2 battery operated airpumps
- 50% volume of premixed ready (heater, powerhead) at destination

Arrive around 4pm , drain aquarium 50% transport fish into this container with just water, tight closing lid, airpump flowing. and add a powerhead (so you have circulation until done with loading the rest)

Drain remaining 50% of the water to the second container, move rocks (gloves !) into it, than the sand and airpump, temporary powerhead again.

Break down the rest move into truck, unhook power for powerheads and drive, by this time its night, and dark, try to pick a day with a good 70's-80' outside temp. if possible.

When you arrive, hook up powerheads, add heater in the fish container and reverse the order while trying to minimize light (to reduce stress) when you emptied the first container (rocks/sand) in the AQ, and added the 20% new water you premixed before, run this for a while, and then check the waterlevels for nitrates etc that probably came free out of the sand etc. while moving.

At this point decide if you want to fill with water from the fish container, or the remaining 25% batch you have.

Drain the fish container to almost empty, remove (hopefully none) any dead loss.
And setup a drip line from the aquarium into the container to slowly adjust the fish to the new water.

When done, transport fish to AQ, ensure that lights are set on timers etc so you don't disturb the cycle too much ....

SLEEP .. :) wake up, and enjoy .. (if it's still not too cloudy from the sand)
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Its a project your going to want to start early on a weekend, because you dont want to be rushed and its a lot of work. I have bought a couple of used setups and its an ton of work each time. Keep your inverts seperate from everything else as it makes it much easier to acclimate them slower when time comes. If you do it all in a day, keep the rock wet, and reaclimate everything properly, you should be fine.
gosh and that is easy? okay thanks for all that - its exactly what I needed to somehow visualise what to do and how. i dont know these guys who are selling are a bit strange dont talk much, say smth like 'no longer wanted' 'no time' when asked why they're selling. I am a bit puzzled. then I think i dont want to be the same in a week time. unprepared newbie with a reef aquarium in my living room.

I am trying to make a list of things I need to get beforehand. Water conditioners, supplements, food, salt. And i think I'd rather start with an empty tank :) but havent given up the idea completely yet.

Yes I would like to grow corals. but I suppose first goal would be transporting and keeping alive what comes with this set up! enough challenge for me.

i got excited because not always you get a bargain when it comes to marine tanks.


PS. circa (ca.) = about
could you tell me honestly what is better to start from scratch cycle the tank properly, get corals establish them and then get invertebs and fish. or to start like this a hassle for few days and then having in a sense someone else's tank set up. i am a bit overwhelmed by quantities, volume and a sheer number of things that possible can go wrong.

now I started with this I will have a marine tank. the question is how I am going to do it. sorry to bother you with my problems and hesitations. it s good to know some of you have done it before transporting whole set ups,moving everything.

because it is very likely I will be moving home next year anyway. I moved once a freshwater but it was just few miles apart and very simple tank.
This is a decision you will have to make. You will have to look at what you are getting, or even more importantly what you are not getting and what you will be paying.
Is it a super good deal and the equipment?
Is what you want?
Or is it what you would buy if you were to buy it new?

Just some things you have to ask yourself.
PS. circa (ca.) = about
Thanks for that :)

I would also heavily weigh the possibility of "moving home in a year"
How do you feel about going through a move like this twice?
could you tell me honestly what is better to start from scratch cycle the tank properly, get corals establish them and then get invertebs and fish. or to start like this a hassle for few days and then having in a sense someone else's tank set up. i am a bit overwhelmed by quantities, volume and a sheer number of things that possible can go wrong.

now I started with this I will have a marine tank. the question is how I am going to do it. sorry to bother you with my problems and hesitations. it s good to know some of you have done it before transporting whole set ups,moving everything.

because it is very likely I will be moving home next year anyway. I moved once a freshwater but it was just few miles apart and very simple tank.
Hi,im new to marine and i bought a 50l tank second hand off ebay and within 2 months i bought a brand new fluval osaka 155. Not just because i wanted a bigger tank but because i also wanted to start from scratch.I think you learn alot more because you get the experience and you will get much more enjoyment when you start from new as its good to see how everything matures, algae blooms, life appearing on live rock etc. Also when you start from scratch you can then pick what live rock you want and how you wan it to look. If you go with the second hand red sea then you have already got it fully stocked so you wont be able to add anything else to make it your own. Im so glad i set up a new tank its now about 3 and a half months old and is doing very well and is looking really good. Thats just my opinion anyway!
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