The Reef Tank banner

1 - 12 of 12 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
133 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
"I need some ideas to a phosphate reactor model so that we can know in how we best setup the sump"

OK, I another question at hand here prior to knowing how the sump will be setup and I will be running a refugium and the section where the ER skimmer will be will be set for a larger ER for later on some time I will get the next size up for the ER I will start it with is like 22.5x9x9" and I will be having the larger that is 9.5x11" i think it is. Also the calcium reactor is not to be setup in the refugium, but the question is on the phosphate reactor. Do they make these reactors that it matters not to where you can place it? I need to see on which models I can use and if it can set in the reservoir with the calcium reactor or it needs to be directly in the main sump.

So the miracle mud will be in the sump that I could simply run a DSB of 4" and have a bed of this miracle mud of about 4" as well I guess. Kevin says he not favors the miracle mud and I told him that its all of a matter of ones opinion to what they favor or not for I readied articles on this and its used on many ideas what if freshwater or ponds as well as in marine systems.

But right now, I need a good idea on a phosphate reactor that I can get later after starting this 150. And if it phosphate reactor could be setup in the reservoir, it would be great.


Links in which I looked up in a search:
http://www.championlighting.com/product.php?productid=17145&cat=738&page=1
http://www.thatpetplace.com/pet/group/10675/product.web
http://www.thatpetplace.com/pet/group/10677/product.web
http://www.aquaticdiscoveries.com/store/index.php?cPath=26 (At this link im looking at the Kent) This not needs to be in the main sump
http://finsdepot.com/reactors_and_media.html
http://www.deltecusa.us/aquariummedia/index.php
http://www.cleartides.com/fluidisedreactors.htm
http://www.tsunamiaquatic.com/catalog/item/1971968/1995849.htm
http://storefront.addictiveaquatics.com/products/Kent_Marine_phosphate_reactor-8698-303.html
http://www.tfjpetcenter.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=19
http://www.northeastmarines.co.uk/acatalog/Fluidised_Reactors.html
http://www.reefinmates.co.za/phosphate_reactors.htm

This will be the very first time that im to use a phosphate reactor> Thanks

Buddy
 

·
Carpe Noctem
Joined
·
9,817 Posts
I use the littlefishies one. You can put it anywhere you want to plumb it to. It doesn't leak, just be careful not to put too much pressure on the fittings or they can pop off. Easy to put back on, but rather surprising getting water thrown on your face when working under the tank:funny:
 

·
Carpe Noctem
Joined
·
9,817 Posts
So the miracle mud will be in the sump that I could simply run a DSB of 4" and have a bed of this miracle mud of about 4" as well I guess. Kevin says he not favors the miracle mud and I told him that its all of a matter of ones opinion to what they favor or not for I readied articles on this and its used on many ideas what if freshwater or ponds as well as in marine systems.
I prefer a sump with no sandbed. it makes it so much easier to clean out the crud. Why try to break down waste in the sump, when you can remove it manually and/or increase the flow o effectively skim the majority of it.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
133 Posts
Discussion Starter · #4 ·
I prefer a sump with no sandbed. it makes it so much easier to clean out the crud. Why try to break down waste in the sump, when you can remove it manually and/or increase the flow o effectively skim the majority of it.

Well Hop, The idea is in the sump is to run a refugium in order to help with keeping the tanks nutrients down by running some macro algae>
 

·
Carpe Noctem
Joined
·
9,817 Posts
I do that too, but without the sandbed. the problem is that you need a large area so that the sandbed doesn't get used up quickly, then you are just amplifying the problem. The solution is no sandbed in the fuge, two fuges so you can tear out and replace one sandbed on alternating years, or just replace the sandbed in a small fuge every-so-often.

This build I'm doing now is actually the first one that I am contemplating two fuges with sandbeds so that I can alternate them. But I'm not set on it yet. I really like the bare fuge that I can suck the crud out of:D

Geoff is definitely one who can fill you in on some details, but he is definitely opinionated on his beliefs of no sand beds anywhere, but he has the knowledge to back it up;) I can only give you experiences from what I've read and done first hand.
 

·
Caitlin Renee 6/29/07
Joined
·
3,199 Posts
hey hop,

sorry to hijack here, but i have a question for you.

Im gonna get the little fishies phosban reactor, my question is, what is the distance between the chamber and the flange to hang the reactor?? I will be having a 2" lip on the top of my sump. will the flange be able to be attached to this lip?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,666 Posts
I use the littlefishes brand and have it spliced into my main return line with a valve to regulate the water flow. Works great and no need for an extra pump.
 

·
Administrator
Joined
·
34,435 Posts
it all comes down to that the wise Spanky once said. "how badly do you want to keep fish poo as a pet". i for one would rather keep the fish as the pet and not the fish poo. sand beds of any kind are just a way to hide the fish poo. so in other words the more sand you have the more pet fish poo you have.

G~
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
133 Posts
Discussion Starter · #9 ·
In the tank with a DSB of not less then 4" and with the inhabitants of corals and fish the issue on fish poo not much of a problem, but what if there is some critters that I could manage well enough in the sump? Without those that would munch on the algae needed to assist in the controlling the tank nutrients.

Buddy
 

·
Carpe Noctem
Joined
·
9,817 Posts
hey hop,

sorry to hijack here, but i have a question for you.

Im gonna get the little fishies phosban reactor, my question is, what is the distance between the chamber and the flange to hang the reactor?? I will be having a 2" lip on the top of my sump. will the flange be able to be attached to this lip?
Less than 2". I have it hanging on a 20 now and there is some room, but not enough for what you need. I think that it might fit the rim of my 125, but it would be very tight. I think you will have to find a different way to mount it.
 

·
Administrator
Joined
·
34,435 Posts
it all depends on if you actually believe algae is usefull as a nutrient export mechanism. :(

BTW- it is not. they leak just about as much as they uptake. it is actually better to just let the detritus settle out and siphon it out than to rely on algae to uptake it till you decide it is time to export it.

G~
 
1 - 12 of 12 Posts
Top