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Ok,So...
calcium 540 ammonia 0
salinity 1.023 temp 78
p.h 7.8
nitrates 10
nitrites 0

55 gallon, 2 damsels,1starfish
2 clowns 1 scopas tang
tree sponge, leather, xenia, star polyps
birds nest,yellow polyps assorted zoas, porcilipora and palys
Im waiting for lfs to get a alk test i dont dose i use instant ocean and top off with r.o
How is my calcium so high and ph is low, i have instant ocean calcium booster and marine stabilizer which i have not used should i? Whats the deal any help is much appreciated. Thanks:fish:
 

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If the calcium is already that high, you definitely shouldn't dose it. I have the same problem with my pH and calcium. Have you tested your water before you mix it? And also after you mix it?
 

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I have not ever dosed my tank i got those products free and they are just around the house, Im currently running my back up canister filter as to the nitrates being a little high i am considering switching pack to the sump but im not sure if the switch will hurt my tank as it is now.yeah ive had the scopas for quite awile if you think my tank is small you should of seen the one he came out of.
 

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the lfs is currently out of alk tests and i agree i should probably test before and after..
 

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I agree i don't think that they're too high at the moment after having the tank for several years this is the first time that they're at 10 its usually 0 but i will be doing frequent water changes. I was just mostly concerned about the calcium and ph as i'm relatively new to keeping corals and i'm not well versed in the calcium/alk department. I want to switch back from the canister to the sump but would i have issues if i switch straight over to the sump because i wouldn't have the good bacteria thats currently in the canister filter? Or would i be ok with the bacteria thats in the tank as of now and with a new batch of salt in the sump.. Thanks
 

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Should be...just remove the canister and add the sump and make up water for the new water volume. Have you thought about dosing kalkwasser in your tank in the long run?
 

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yeah ive had the scopas for quite awile if you think my tank is small you should of seen the one he came out of.
The tank he came out of is irrelevant as its a VERY temperary home, like one week probely less. If you've had him awhile then i suggest you start saying your good byes to him soon as he wont last much longer unless you upgrade soon. Having little room is not the main problem for a tang, its really the sub problem (they will just be stressed and generally unhappy) but the problems the lack of space causes when exposed to it long term is the real killer. He will die unless moved into a bigger tank. Theres no "ifs" or "buts" about it he WILL die! Lack of space = lack of exercise = stunted growth which causes internal problems and death. Either upgrade or return him to the LFS so someone with a bigger tank can have him and save him a cruel and suffering fate.
 

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this thread is not really about my tang but thanks for your concern pal..
Any post i make i appreciate any input people have for things im doing wrong so i can better my husbandry. If you dont have that attitude then marine keeping is not for you. Accept that your tank is too small and either do the right thing or leave your tang to slowly suffer untill he dies. He WILL die. Its not a "might" or "maybe" it will happen so do the right thing before the damage is irreversable (which it might already be) as you wont notice anything wrong untill just before he pops off.
 

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Couldn't we argue that keeping all fish in any size tank makes them unhappy then we are all wrong, i think we shouldn't eat fish,cows or unhappy carrots but we would all die. btw I bought my tang at petco where the kid that sold him to me said he was there since he started 4 months prior so VERY temporary home i think not.any tang kept in captivity will ALWAYS have a stunted growth no matter that size tank anyways im not saying your wrong but there is a time and place for this discussion and its not on a tank parameters thread.
 

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Couldn't we argue that keeping all fish in any size tank makes them unhappy then we are all wrong, i think we shouldn't eat fish,cows or unhappy carrots but we would all die. btw I bought my tang at petco where the kid that sold him to me said he was there since he started 4 months prior so VERY temporary home i think not.any tang kept in captivity will ALWAYS have a stunted growth no matter that size tank anyways im not saying your wrong but there is a time and place for this discussion and its not on a tank parameters thread.
when its about a fishes well being then this is the place and time. "Keeping all fish in any size tank does makes them unhappy" is completely rediculous. Take for example clownfish, they will not breed unless feel 100% safe and happy but they are rather easy to have breed in captivity. You could keep a dog in a cage, if that cage was a mile big right? No problem what so ever, but you couldnt keep him in a cage 3 foot big... There is a difference between killing something fast and humanely to eat it in order to survive than to stick it into a tiny tank to slowly suffer untill it dies for absolutely no reason. "any tang kept in captivity will ALWAYS have a stunted growth no matter that size tank" is again rediculous... If the tang has enough space therefor gets enough exercise then it will not have stunted growth. Keep the tang and make him suffer tho, just know your making his internal organs slowly outgrow the rest of his body, imagine the pain its going to cause in the future untill he sadly dies. Upgrade or return him to the LFS. And just to add if he was at the LFS for 4 months this either tells me there is something wrong with the shop or the fish. And if he was kept in a small tank there then his life could have very limited time left.
 

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Ok dude im not gonna argue with you on an online thread if you'd like to donate to save takt's scopas tang fund go right ahead. or better yet ill sell him to you for $500 SAVE TAKT'S SCOPAS TANG put up or shut up.
 

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Stop and laugh....

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Ok dude im not gonna argue with you on an online thread if you'd like to donate to save takt's scopas tang fund go right ahead. or better yet ill sell him to you for $500 SAVE TAKT'S SCOPAS TANG put up or shut up.
well you have clearly proven that you shouldnt be doing this hobby, when realising you have him in a tiny tank you should want to re home him. Your attitude is rubbish, very bad husbandry and just cruel. IMO you are not welcome here as this is a place of those that wish to learn and better their husbandry in order to try care for their fish properly.
 
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