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Hello everybody, this is my first post. I have used this forum numerous times to find answers to my many noob questions but I am stumped now and looking for advice/suggestions.

I had a 55 gal setup for about a month and a half and everything was good to go. Like most people I wanted a bigger tank and stumbled onto a 100 gal with what I believe is a 10 gal sump. My buddy and I cleaned the new tank and got it ready for the transfer. We drained the 55 into different containers and separated fish, coral and LR. I bought new sand and used about 1/4 of my old sand. Set up the new tank and got everything up and running. Checked water params and everything was the same as the old tank

Ammonia 0
nitrites 0
nitrates 0
ph 8
sg 1.025

I added the fish Friday evening (We did the tank last Friday afternoon/added fish that night)

The problem started Wed night (5 days later). I noticed the Flame Angel had what appeared to be ich and was acting weird. but everybody else was fine.

Thursday morning the Flame was dead and the FoxFace was breathing heavy. FoxFace was was dead by lunch. Everybody else is breathing heavy. Checked the water everything was as before. Got home from work and the hawkfish was dead. Did a 20% water change. Checked water at night and all perams where as before. Fish still breathing heavy

Friday morning the chromis is dead. The Humu and moroon clown are in hiding. The only fish that dont seem to be affected are the Kauderns and spotted cardinals. Checked water at lunch

Ammonia .25
nitrites 0
nitrates 20
ph 8
sg 1.025

Did a 20 % water change when I got home from work and added Smart Start to help with ammonia and nitrates. Checked water last night

Ammonia 0
nitrites 0
nitrates 10 or 20 (hard to tell)
ph 8
sg 1.025

Humu looking pretty bad. Bagged him and had my buddy put him in his 75 gal. Maroon looking better and Cardinals still ok. Lawnmower Blenny still breathing hard. Some corals look ok and some dont.

This morning Cardinals still good, Maroon Clown looks to be back to normal and cant see the LM blenny to see how he is. Checked water

Ammonia 0
nitrite 0
nitrate between 0 and 5 (hard to tell)
ph 8
sg 1.025/26

Temp of tank has been between 79 and 80 the whole time. The water hasnt been cloudy other than particles in the water but not cloudy.

Did my tank have a mini cycle?

If you have any questions/suggestions/advice I would love to hear it.


Thank you in advance,
Tony
 

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Welcome to TRT!!!

Imo to much change and not enough time to stabilize. What water did you use to fill the other 50%? Whenever doing drastic changes you will go through mini cycles, I would wait several weeks before adding any new livestock.
Hi,

Thank you for replying. We used what we could from the 55 gal and made the rest with dechlorinated tap and Salinity salt. I will definitely wait to add anything else and cross my fingers that nothing else perishes.

thank you again,
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That is a lot of fish for a tank that was only 1.5 months old. I think too much too fast. It is early for me, so forgive me if I am off a little bit I counted 9 in there so far.
I would agree to much to fast. Everything was in harmony in the 55 though. The 55 was set up with live rock and 30 gal of water from an established tank and media from a fluval 405. Only thing new was the sand and rest of the water.

I also thought O2 deprivation as well. My drain goes through a filter sock with a piece of PVC so it doesn't splash and my ASM skimmer did the same thing. I removed the PVC from the gate valve on the skimmer so it now splashes in the sump. I have the return so it agitates the surface and a aqueon 500 to do the same. I have 2 koralia 750's for circulation.

Thank you all for the replies and if you can think of anything I can do now please let me know

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I think your origin problem was to much to fast. You could have had acclimation issues, an ammonia spike, and so on.

I would stop using the tap, and look at getting a Ro/Di unit. Let things settle and keep a check on those params.

And small doses of copper are different from a prolonged copper content.
I agree 100%. Now that I think about it, we didn't re acclimate anything. Once we new the water was what we thought was good, everybody went back into the pool. Snails, crabs and starfish still seem ok
 

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Ok, an update. blenny (breathing a little hard), marron and both cardinals are still alive. Almost all of the coral is doing ok except for the devils hand and he just might not like where I put him. I now have brown algea like I did in the beginning with the 55 gal

My humu in my buddy's 75 gal is still alive and eating.


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Tony
 

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did you not cycle the tank and just everything from the last tank? if so did you acclimate the fish? i did this same way the other day
The 55 had cycled. I didnt cycle the 100 because I was under the inpression that what we did was like doing a 50% water change. However it appears that it has cycled anyway. Of all the possible reasons I have read on the internet, a mini cycle or O2 deprivation seems to be the best guesses thus far. I am a noob at this SW buisness and thought that i had everything under control. Bazinga, guess again.

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Trial and error, that's how we learn.

Let things mellow for a bit, you probably will be good after a few weeks.

Good refurb model for Ro/Di www.spectrpure.com $120.00 + $19.00 shipping.
That's exactly what I will. Keep checking my water and adding nothing new. Feed very little and cross my fingers.

What GPD RO/DI is recommended?

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Tony
 
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