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04-16-2005, 06:15 PM
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Plankton
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Utah
Posts: 22
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New look
Ok had to tear the whole tank apart to catch that stupid damsel. I got a pair of clowns and the damsel wouldn't leave them alone so he had to go. I couldn't get my tank back to how it was before so here is the new look.
I lost 2 mushrooms and my ric tearing my tank apart. Hopefully they turn up growing somewhere in the back of my tank but I have no idea where they are. Since my damsel caused me so much grief I decided to feed him to my open brain and here is a pic of that adventure.

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04-16-2005, 09:52 PM
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photomod
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Montana
Posts: 5,898
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Nice shot, but your LFS might have given you a little credit on the damsel.
Did he die or something?
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04-16-2005, 10:00 PM
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Nano reefer and Jeeper
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
Posts: 784
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To start out, this isn't a flame...but...you should have taken the fish back, IMO. I know it is just a damsel, but it was just acting out of instinct (or more appropriately, innate drives). They're not called blue devils for no reason. Next time, do more research on a fish before you go adding one to your tank. Have we all made mistakes that have cost fish lives? Yes. But, in my opinion, killing a fish isn't the best way to get back at a fish for acting the way it was supposed to act....you just didn't know that it was supposed to act like that. What fault did the fish commit to have it fed to the coral? I'm not really impressed by the feeding of your fish to the coral, nor the picture. Just my $0.02
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04-17-2005, 12:12 AM
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Plankton
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Utah
Posts: 22
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I don't feel killing a fish is bad. I respect your opinion but I eat fish and I see no difference in my corals eating a fish as I do. I knew the damsel was aggressive and knew I would have to get rid of it once I got new fish. I also never planned on giving it back to the LFS. I was going to originally feed it to a friends frogfish but that fish died so rather than flushing it I put it to good use by allowing my coral to get some nutrition out of it. Again I respect yours (and others) opinion but it is natural for organisms to die and be eaten, IMO there is nothing cruel about what I did.
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04-17-2005, 12:54 PM
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Nano reefer and Jeeper
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
Posts: 784
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I respect that...I guess I just saw it as useless, but you would have had to feed the coral another dead fish, so it really all comes out in the wash. I just have this difference in my head between "animal" and "pet"...i guess in nature, it would all be the same, whether it's a herring or a damsel.
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04-17-2005, 06:08 PM
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photomod
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Montana
Posts: 5,898
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I guess all I can say is jeepjon's signature holds a lot of truth.
But that's my opinion.
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04-17-2005, 06:16 PM
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Nano reefer and Jeeper
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
Posts: 784
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I don't like preaching...and I have taken out pests in our yard that have posed a threat to our pets (i.e.-a muskrat once bit the carotid artery of one of our german shepards...after which, it is open season on those with my 0.22lr) But...I still think killing a fish out of mere convenience is a little too much for me. Additionally, there is a difference between killing a food species and a tropical reef species. Food species generally aren't as protected/threatened as reef species. I would think we should try to preserve the fish that get taken off of the wild reefs as much as possible. This is our hobby, and those animals with which we strive to keep should be conserved, in my opinion. I believe in voicing my opinion, and showing others my viewpoint...but in the end, we are all free to make the decisions we make, and that is why I live in the USA. I don't believe in relativism, but I don't believe in forcing beliefs on someone else....ok...soapbox open.
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04-17-2005, 08:32 PM
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Human grounding probe
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Wyoming
Posts: 1,896
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A little late to try and change his mind though. Now the part I have a hard time understanding is the trouble the Yellowtail Damsel caused. I have had many and every one of them were wrather timid for a damsel.
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04-19-2005, 12:10 AM
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Plankton
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Utah
Posts: 22
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Jeep - I wish others were as open minded as you. I really respect that fact that you have a different opinion on the action I took yet you didn't feel the need to put me down for making the decision I made. Like you said you have gotten rid of pests in your yard and I felt the damsel was a pest. I agree we need to try our hardest and preserve the reefs we try and imitate at home. I have strived to buy only aquacultured corals and tank bred fish to save the natural reefs around the world. Some times that is not possible to get the corals I would like to keep, but I make sure all animals I receive are going to get the best home I can possibly provide. Exception to this of course would be the damsel I purchased. I regret getting him and wished I would have researched a little more regarding others experience with damsels. Anyways I hope everyone in this hobby would research more, myself included, before getting anything. Ok enough out of me, have a good day all.
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04-23-2005, 02:08 AM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: vegas
Posts: 393
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I feel the same way about people that wrongly persecute bubble algae. Save the bubble!
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04-23-2005, 10:55 AM
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BIG SMELLY MOD

Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Denham Springs, LA
Posts: 18,742
Reviews: 21
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I just want to jump in here and say that Your nano tank looks very nice.
Vince
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04-24-2005, 12:09 AM
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Plankton
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Utah
Posts: 22
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New Brain
Ok here is my newest aquisition. It is a pineapple brain. Enjoy.

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04-30-2005, 10:35 PM
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#28
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Plankton
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Utah
Posts: 22
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More corals
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05-01-2005, 12:41 AM
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photomod
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Montana
Posts: 5,898
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Cool lookin zoos. 
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05-01-2005, 08:11 PM
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Nano reefer and Jeeper
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
Posts: 784
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Lookin good. I need to get a digital camera and show off some pics! Looking really good, though. I like that pinapple brain.
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