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Old 01-21-2008, 04:43 PM   #1
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Help on putting together a nano reef! What to buy?


Hello all, i really have NO CLUE what i'm doing or how to do it or what to get. I have read around but i am just lost. I am going to purchase a 20 gallon tank tonight. I need to know what else to buy. I'm looking to get a nano reef like this one. http://www.thereeftank.com/forums/at...3&d=1085264266 going. That is my goal. Please assist me with links and tell me what filter, heater, and chemicals that i need to get to make my tank into something like that. I have about $400 or so to spend. Thanks!
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Old 01-21-2008, 04:54 PM   #2
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Welcome to TRT! That is a beautiful talk that you linked and a good example of reefkeeping at it's finest. I would recommend that you read the following article and take some time checking out the nano reef building contest for ideas.

http://www.thereeftank.com/forums/fa...les#faq_sywart
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Old 01-21-2008, 10:08 PM   #3
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Welcome! Take your time and read up here at TRT before you buy. The most important parts will be the lighting and the skimmer. Often the local fish store (LFS) won't stock what might be best for your tank so you don't necessarily want to buy what they recommend. Hoang's advice above about reading the nano build threads is a great idea!
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Old 01-22-2008, 06:52 PM   #4
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welcome to TRT
some of us are putting together nano tanks this year
therads can be found in special events forum
http://www.thereeftank.com/forums/fo...play.php?f=260

please browse though them and don't hesitate about asking questions on particular set-ups
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Old 01-22-2008, 06:59 PM   #5
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oh and shop Ebay and classified adds once yuo find the lights/filters you want
before you buy

you'd be amazed at the deals you can get
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Old 01-24-2008, 09:16 PM   #6
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1. Be careful before you order from ebay and make sure it is a quality item. There are lots of "ph meters" on ebay that I wouldn't trust to test a septic tank. Like K-I-A said, find what you want, then look for a deal on the specific item.
2. Don't rush in. First read - ALOT! This site is full of good info a well as other reef related sites. There is a ton to learn, even more if you never have had any aquarium experience. The saying "Nothing good ever happens fast in a reef tank" is probably one of the most repeated statements to new folks.
3. Last but not least, don't hesitate to ask questions as you go along. There are plenty of folks here that will be happy to make suggestions - many who will have first hand experience with the product in question.

Good luck with your new reef.
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Old 01-27-2008, 11:58 AM   #7
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Okay, since no one else seems to want to play:
pH meter (waaay more accurate than hobby level chemical test kit)
Refractometer (leave the swing arm hydrometer to the FO crowd)
Salt (most of the major name brand salts are okay)
RO-DI source - either an RO-DI system or an LFS that sells RO-DI water. Second choice would be grocery store filtered water if it is RO.
An accurate thermometer. Floating glass is not a good idea because with high flow, they might get broken in the tank, unless you get one with a good suction cup to keep it still.
Test kits - ammonia, nitrate, nitrite, calcium and alkalinity test kits (from what I read I wouldn't get a phosphate kit because they can't really measure down to the levels you hope to have in a reef tank - if you have algae problems past the normal cycle most LFSs will test for you) Salifert seems to be a popular brand, but I don't actually have water in my tank yet, so I have never played with them.
Grounding probe - cheap insurance for you and your critters against stray voltage shocks.
Heater(s) - again most of the big names work fine. If you will have a sump, it's better 2 small ones than one big one, although for a 20 you might not be able to find a small enough heater. The idea behind 2 is if one fails your tank won't get too cold and if one sticks in the on position half the watts means twice as long for you to catch it before it cooks your tank. If no sump, try to find an unbreakable, fully submersible heater so rockslides don't smash it.
Lights / Flow / Filtration will depend somewhat on exactly what you want to keep. Softies requrie less light / flow in general than SPS (fuzzy sticks). If you want SPS and clams you almost can't have too much light. Same on filtration. Softies and LPS you can get by with live rock / sand / weekly water changes. Lots of fish or you want SPS, then you need to start looking for a skimmer. Depending on weather you plan on having a sump or not decides alot on skimmer choice. If you have a sump, plumbing is more complex and you will have to have a return pump, but you get some of the junk (like heaters and some power heads) out of your tank.
Was hoping some of the more experienced folks would dive in here. I have been studying for a couple of YEARS between here and some other sites, but I am moving very slowly for a variety of reasons. Hopefully I will have water by Father's Day. That being said, I am on this and other sites pretty much daily and have several books under my belt. It's no replacement for experience, but I will share what I have read. Most of all, I encourage you to study alot and go slow. I think alot of the folks that quit in the first 6 months or so might have been saved by some patience and research before they threw down a big chunk of change for stuff they didn't understand.
As you can see, $400 is going to be a challenge, and you can bet that you will quickly surpass that number if not in the initial set up, then probably within a year. It's hard to nail anyone down for what you will spend (I think most don't want to think about it) but I have seen estimates between $15 and $40 per gallon to set up and around $1-2 per gallon per month to feed / power / maintain (some estimate higher). Alot of that is determined by what you plan to keep and how do-it-yourself oriented you are.
Hopefully wiser voices will be heard, but I figured I would at least throw in my two cents. Good luck.
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Old 01-27-2008, 12:01 PM   #8
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p.s. answer back with what you plan on keeping and if you want a sump and maybe we can nail down lights, skimmer and flow a little better.
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