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Old 01-09-2010, 04:37 PM   #1
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29G Biocube Start up


Hello Everyone,

Just purchased a 29G Biocube last week from Petsmart. The sale they were having was very good to some prices I have seen online and at LFS. I have been lurking around on a few sites and finally decided to post a thread and ask some opinions. I am going slow, not only for money reasons, but for the fact that I want to do it right and have a great tank. Everything I have read says take it slow so I am trying. Having an empty tank just sitting in the living room is hard though.

Ok so here are some of my questions.

1. Should I wait and get my LR, LS, and water all at the same time?

I am planning on purchasing all from my LFS and wonder if I can get away with sand and water for now and then add rock in a week or so. If it will help with cycling I may get sand and water now just to get it going, but is it really going to be beneficial or just wait til I can get the rock too?

2. I plan on doing a reef with corals in this tank. With the LR, LS, water coming from the LFS and cycing in house for approx 2 weeks, how soon should or could I add a few coral frags to the tank?

Fish population will be small with most likely a pair of maroon w/gold stipe clowns and maybe one other small fish in addition to a shrimp, hermits and some snails for cleaning. These will be added around this time as well. The clowns may have to wait a couple weeks longer, but will have to see.

3. From what I have read, I am planning on removing the bioballs and just running with LR in the middle compartment in the back for filtrations with some filter floss on top. Depending on how my temps go during cycling I may put a heater in the first compartment. Does this set-up sound sufficient?

Thanks for any help anyone may have. Hope to get some good comments and once I get going will have pics and updates posted.
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Old 01-09-2010, 05:00 PM   #2
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you made a great choice!
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Doesn't look like this now but you can do alot with it. Get your water and then add the sand then rock. It will take a little bit to cycle so you need to get some good tests kits to keep an eye on it. keep the LR in the tank and get a nano skimmer for the middle chamber. Ditch the filter cartridge, these things are like $10 for 2. Mod the filter cartridge to accept some filter pad only. Get a couple small media bags and put some carbon in the 1 & 3 chambers. Upgrade the stock pump if you want to. I don't use a heater at all as the tank stays 78-80 constantly. Add a small MJ 600 in the display for extra movement.
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Old 01-10-2010, 09:09 AM   #3
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Thanks for the info slumpy. Beautiful tank. My girlfriend saw and said mine better look like that! May go get water and sand today. Hoping for rocks on Wednesday.
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Old 01-10-2010, 01:26 PM   #4
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is that one of those platinum clowfish?
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Old 01-10-2010, 02:35 PM   #5
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I took everything out of my biocube and have no filtration stuff in the back compartments. I just use the LR as the biological filter.
I mixed my salt water using distilled water that I bought from target, added instant ocean salt mix and put about half of it in the tank. Then I added the sand and let it settle, added LR and then topped off the water the rest of the way.
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Old 01-10-2010, 05:02 PM   #6
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Welcome to TRT!!!

1) You can go ahead and get the water and sand, but it will not help with cycling the tank. It will allow the sand to settle before adding the rock which will make things a little easier. The cycle will not start until you put the live rock in the tank, as that is where the bacteria live.

2) The length of the cycle depends on many things. Quality of the live rock, how much die off occurs during transport, and whether or not the rock was fully cured when you got it. You will want to add a source of ammonia to the system. Many people use a piece of raw shrimp and let it begin rotting in the tank. If you go this route it is highly recommended to put the shrimp in a piece of nylon stocking for easy retrieval when you want to get it out. Another option is to just add a tablespoon of ammonia to the tank and then test to see how the system processes it. When the ammonia and nitrites are at 0, and the nitrates are less than 10, you should be able to start with the clean up crew.

3) Remove all of the stuff in the back like dianad_323 did as otherwise it will just be a place to trap detritus and allow it to rot in your system.

I am glad to hear you are planning on going slow, as that is the key to success. Keep in mind that 2 weeks in the life of a reef is like 1 second in our lives. Be patient and make sure the tank has fully finished cycling before moving to the next step.

Best of luck with everything.
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Old 01-18-2010, 08:09 PM   #7
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Update!!!


Finally got things going! Sand is down and after a couple hours completely settled. Water temps are slowly coming up with just leaving the lights on. Rock scape is looking good but may add a couple more pieces. This is what I have going so far: 20 pounds of live sand, ~15-18 pounds of LR. The LFS gave me a great deal on the rock so I got mostly nice pouruos pieces plus a couple good sturdy solid one for the bottom support. Last but not least got some hermits and snails to get things going. All are doing great.

Ok here is where it gets really good. Found an add on Craiglist for a 14G Biocube with stand for $125. Girl just wanted to get rid of it and one of the ballasts was not working. Went and looked at it. She had a nice zoa and a small duncan frag. Didnt know if either were gonna make it since she only had her actinics going. Also got a lot of other goodies and 2 clowns as well. Well as we were packing things in my truck she saw that she had another ballast, but didnt know if it worked or not. Got home, set everything up, complete the water change since we had a 2 5 gallon buckets still full. Low and behold, plug in the other ballast and it works great. The corals I put at the top of my rocks in the 29G. Moved a few of the pieces of LR into the 14, and everything is looking good. The Zoas are opening up beautifully and seem to be doing really well now. The clowns are loving having the rock in their tank since there was a plastic rock in there before. Oh forgot to mention I bought this tank for my girlfriend so we each have our own tank to do the hobby together. AWESOME!!!

I will post some pics on here shortly. Ive got a few good ones. I can see I will be taking a lot of them!
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Old 01-18-2010, 08:22 PM   #8
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Top pics are the 29G. From start up to settled and then the Zoa (correct me if I am wrong, but that is what I was told)

Bottom pics are of the girlfriends 14G with her 2 clowns and the rock I added.

Also, could someone tell me what the hitchiker is in the bottom right of the pic with the coral? It looks kind of cool coming out of the rock, but want to make sure it is something that is not going to hurt the tank. Thanks
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Old 03-20-2010, 12:37 AM   #9
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thats great hey im new now and just bought a biocube and have the sand now im ready for the rock ive already installed the sand so where do i get the lr from should i reall take out all the bio balls and filters .
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Old 03-20-2010, 07:42 AM   #10
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Welcome to TRT!You can order it or get it at a LFS and yes I'd get rid of bioballs and filters,the rock will do all that and better!
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Old 03-20-2010, 04:30 PM   #11
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Great setup!! It looks like a zoa to me
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Old 03-21-2010, 11:24 AM   #12
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Please help


So LR is live rock?how does it survive with no light in the back of the tank i was also thinking of buying a skimmer any suggestions?Ive got the bio balls still in the tank so let me get this right take the balls and the plastic tray completly out and put live rock in its place how much live rock goes in the back.I ordered 25 # of fiji rock today so should arrive by wednsday im so excited and so is my family.Also not sure but ive read in some forums that the filter cartridges made by bio cube create nitrates in your tank so im a little scared to leave them.they basically said dont use any of the filters just use a skimmer uv light and LR in the 2nd chamber please help me what should i do.
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Old 03-27-2010, 07:15 PM   #13
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Hello whats the difference in cured and uncured rock
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Old 03-28-2010, 03:21 PM   #14
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"Live rock" (lr) isn't actually living. Its just rock with a bunch of things living on top of it With no light, nothing will happen to it, the lr is just there as a substatute for the bio balls, it accumulates bacteria and helps filter the water that surrounds it. I have a 20g nano and use the oceanic biocube skimmer. It works great for me, it would be fine for you too if you were religious about your wc and vacuuming. It can be stored in the filtration conpartment behind the back wall in the biocubes. It's meant for tanks up to 30g. And of course, that skimmer is not nearly as good as some of the bigger brands, but it works for nano's fine.

Cured rock is rock that has either been treated with a salt spray or has been sitting in a tub of saltwater for about 6 weeks at your lfs and has been scrubbed with brushes to scrap away dead or dying organisms(sometimes lfs just let it sit in a tank for a couple months too, this is fine). And uncured rock is lr that is harvested directly from the ocean and sold to costumers without any treatment. This will cause ammonia spikes in your tank if added without it being cured because SOME of the organisms that were living on it have died, and that simply can't be prevented. Hope I made sense to you!!

Let me know if you need further or more detailed explainations
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Old 04-02-2010, 10:36 PM   #15
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if i get 25# of uncured rock clean it up alil and put it in a new tank with sand and a skimmer how long will it take to get my tank right and what should i do please i was told to clean the rock with a hose and put it in the tank.is that right
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