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Old 03-31-2006, 04:44 PM   #1
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Invisible rock lift


I was trying to figure out a way i could lift my rocks off of the sandbed the most inconspicuous way possible. I came up with this.

I should have taken better pics, but i will try to explain a little what you are looking at.

3/4 pvc and a bunch of couplings and T.s-This makes the frame which goes under the sand. This holds all of the short acrylic rods as well as the acrylic sheets which create the majority of the weight capacity.

4 pieces 12" x 5 1/2" 5/16 clear acrylic sheet. the entire center of these cut out and after drilling the appropriate holes for the pvc and for the crossbeams, i then drilled 3/4 inch holes wherever they would fit in the remaining plastic to allow passage of water/sand/critters.

2 42" 3/4" cast acrylic rod-for the crossbeams which go through the 2 holes inm the acrylic sheet

20 or more 3/4" cast acrylic rod cut into 3-6 inch pieces. I take my grinder and machine(lol-ok that may be a little liberal use of the word "machine") one end of these rods to about 3/16" and cut the other end so that it makes 4 points to hold rock. I use a spade drill bit to make the holes in the pvc that secure it. I drill down completely through the top of a fitting and then when you hit the bottom i dont go completely through, i go through using a spade drill bit and let the tip go through creating the hole where the 3/16 tip goes through and the rest of the bottom hole makes a 3/4" seat. The 20 "or more" are needed so that as you are stacking rock and you need one longer or shorter, you have it available to swap out.


So, not a very successful picture or explanation of what i created. But it WAS a successful idea that lifted my 130 lbs of rock 4" off of my substrate. I actually stood on it on one foot all over it before i put it into the water(i weigh 210). So it is many times stronger than it really needs to be. It is a dream to stack on as wherever you throw a rock it just sticks as well as is adjustable to compensate for little things here and there in the rock.
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Old 04-05-2006, 01:22 AM   #2
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Someone asked what it looked like in the tank.....here it is. You can see a little bit of pvc in the middle left but that is only becasue I need to add a little sand back there. 1" of sand everywhere completely hides the PVC.
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Old 04-05-2006, 01:30 AM   #3
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Looks nice!!!


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Old 04-05-2006, 07:10 AM   #4
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What a great ideal!Great job!
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Old 05-25-2006, 12:11 PM   #5
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thats awesome!
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Old 07-10-2006, 08:15 PM   #6
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ive had a couple inquiries about this lately so i thought i would just post a couple more pics. These are of the both ends of the acrylic rods...the jagged end for holding the rock and the end with the point on it to stick into the hole that the spade drill bit makes in the bottom of the pvc. This just holds it securely in place as the top cut of the pvc is anything but "clean" using the spade. lol You could make a cleaner cut using a different bit but much easier to do both cuts with the same sweep and it is super stable.
I am not using this exact design on my new tanks however as they are acrylic so i am just gluing acrylic plugs with a 3/4" hole in them to hold the rods....so the only thing i am doing to the rods is making the tips with 4 points to hold the rock. Thus eliminating the pvc rack altogether.
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looks really goodand is a great idea but how did you get your rock on the stand?
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looks really goodand is a great idea but how did you get your rock on the stand?
just started stacking, it sticks like glue to the ends with 4 points...i also had different lenght rods cut and ready for a piece of rock that really required something different and just swapped it out accordingly
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what made you want to get your rock off the sand bed?
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Old 07-10-2006, 10:27 PM   #10
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Looks great there goes my idea
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what made you want to get your rock off the sand bed?
it allows for complete and thorough flow through your rocks so they can perform thier function as efficiently as possible. As well, although others may disagree, but i believe you could get away with much less rock than the 1 -1.5 pounds per gallon standard to perform adequate biological filtration as ALL of your rock is actually being used. I dont actually practice that theory myslef because i like the look of rock wall to wall, but i do believe it. Additionally, there are zero dead spots for yuck to accumulate.

Getting the rock off of the sandbed isnt original but i dont like to look at pvc like most people do it, covered in coralline or not. The acrylic rods are also much stronger so you have less blockage and you truly do have complete flow underneath. I dont use the crossbars anymore as they really were overkill for strength and the brackets that held them up were much thicker than just the rods, kind of defeating part of the concept.
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i see might do something like that on my other tanks.
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Old 07-23-2006, 11:30 AM   #13
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I thought i might try to make of a couple of these for people while im playing mr mom.

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what made you want to get your rock off the sand bed?
Another reason is that nutrients accumulate in the SB, after a while they will "wick" into the rock and you could end up with a lovely green forest of green hair!

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That's pretty sweet! I may have to place a bid...
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