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10-07-2006, 11:43 PM
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Caitlin Renee 6/29/07
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Wooster, Ohio
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I need some help once again!!!!!
These are my choices.
either run a CLS and not have the seios in my tank OR
run a spraybar with a external pump and use my seios with the seio controller....
I am actually leaning towards option 2 for the simple fact i will be having flyguy make a rock lift for me. so the spraybar would be able to get under the rocks.
Now, this is where i need the expertise of the DIYers.
In order for me to run this spraybar. I would have to run the inlet and the outlet of from the pump up n over the top of my tank.
would this work?? and what pump would be good for running this application?
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10-08-2006, 03:49 AM
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Little Fishy
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Location: Eugene, OR
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Yes running up and over the top will work, that's the way I had mine set up. and as for what pump that depends on how much you want to flow. In my 180 I had about 3600gph and it worked well but I probably could have used more flow.
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10-08-2006, 03:58 AM
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Caitlin Renee 6/29/07
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did you have 3600 on a CLS or for your spraybar?
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90g RR w/30g custom sump,30# Kaelini,30# Marshall,20# Uaniva,20# Tonga Branch,2 6045s,1 Seio 820,Milwaukee pH monitor,Milwaukee ORP monitor,(2) 150w Ebo Jager heaters,PanWorld 50px return pump, 2x54w T5 w/individual SLR IC reflectors,2x250w XM 10k w/ARO 250w electronic ballast,Reef Octopus NW200 skimmer
still a work in progress, but getting ever so close
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10-08-2006, 04:02 AM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Jun 2004
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The spraybar was part of the cls, here is a couple of pics.
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10-08-2006, 04:07 AM
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Little Fishy
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It was quite involved but it fit the space I had at the time and after a small problem with a couple of air leaks it worked very well.
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10-09-2006, 04:18 PM
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Caitlin Renee 6/29/07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by volitansman
The spraybar was part of the cls, here is a couple of pics.
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all i see red X's
Does anyone have any other suggestions for a pump, since i am not a big mag lover, plus it will be running externally
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10-09-2006, 09:23 PM
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It can be rebuilt.
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Pittsboro, NC
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there are a couple of different ways to add a CLS without drilling there is the over the back which works quite well, but you get a fair amount of flow loss from all of the plumbing. i suggest a 1200gph + pump for these setups. i know there are a lot of people that use this type of CLS. i used one at one point also. do not have a pic right now to show you though.
the other type of non-drilled CLS is like this:
i would also suggest a pump over 1000gph for these also. i have run that type of CLS with Mag's, Velocities, and the original Quiet ones.
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10-09-2006, 09:27 PM
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Caitlin Renee 6/29/07
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Geoff
I think i am going with just a spraybar instead. And going to dish the cash out for the tunzes w/controller or the seios w/controller.
Would i need a stronger pump for the spraybar? The spraybar would be at the bottom of the tank
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10-10-2006, 09:49 AM
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It can be rebuilt.
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what pump are you thinking for the spraybar? a Tunze will not work in that application.
for a 4' tank i would suggest something like a Mag12. i would not go below about 1200gph for a spraybar of that length.
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10-10-2006, 05:15 PM
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Caitlin Renee 6/29/07
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i know the tunzes will not work. I am referring to the tunzes and the seios for extra flow thru out the tank eliminating my CLS
Pump choice i have not decided. i would rather it not be a mag drive tho
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90g RR w/30g custom sump,30# Kaelini,30# Marshall,20# Uaniva,20# Tonga Branch,2 6045s,1 Seio 820,Milwaukee pH monitor,Milwaukee ORP monitor,(2) 150w Ebo Jager heaters,PanWorld 50px return pump, 2x54w T5 w/individual SLR IC reflectors,2x250w XM 10k w/ARO 250w electronic ballast,Reef Octopus NW200 skimmer
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10-10-2006, 09:40 PM
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It can be rebuilt.
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Tunze's and Seio's will make great added flow. i do not think that they will take the place of the spray bar though unless your LR is very open though.
not sure what pump would be good for that CLS. i like to recommend Velocity pumps for everything, but this is application is out of their range. you might want to look at the other Blue-Line pumps also. i think the Sequence pumps will be to big for this application also.
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