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Old 01-25-2005, 08:28 PM   #1
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DIY pvc Overflow


Hey DIY'rs, I thought I'd share one of my latest working projects with you.

Tired of looking for an overflow box? Dont have the adequate tools to work with acrylic, or you just cant find any acrylic? Well, behold reefer's best friend: pvc. While googleling for an overflow box I found this cool design and tried it out. While it isnt the best looking thing around, it works great and its cheap to build. All you need is a strip of pvc, a couple of T's, L's, X's, and a valve (optional). I wont describe how to assemble this since its straight forward by looking at the pictures. BTW, this was not designed by me. Full credit goes to Craig A. Lamp at http://www.nd.edu/~lego/grp2/www/reef_diy.htm. (I tried contacting him but there was no response). Anyways, I only took his idea and added a valve to make the whole process of starting the siphon easier. I used 3/4" pvc but im planning to make another one using a smaller size since this is too big and powerful for my 29g tank. Black pvc is also recommended. Has anyone else tried this out?
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Old 01-25-2005, 09:41 PM   #2
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that looks pretty good

i also made an overflow to go into my fuge. i took a spare peinguen 125 powerfilter, cut a hole in the bottom, added a barbed adapter and i use the pum on the filter instead of a siphon. works pretty well too.
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Old 01-25-2005, 11:08 PM   #3
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Can we get more detail on the PVC overflow? A little write up on how it works?
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Old 01-25-2005, 11:48 PM   #4
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i agree that does not look strait forward to me. sorry
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Old 01-25-2005, 11:49 PM   #5
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Wow, nice pipe work! Yes, what doug said.
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Old 01-26-2005, 01:47 AM   #6
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lol, sorry about that. I guess its different when you already did it. I'll try to do my best in explaining this. You should also have some knowledge of how the ordinary overflow box works... BTW, this is a hangon overflow box.

1st picture shows a sort of diagram between the ordinary overflow box and the one implemented with pvc ( distorted side view). As you can see, when the water level is above the upside down U, excess water will be drained. If the water level is below the upside down U, then the water stays still until the water level rises and pushes the water over the other side. The siphon wont break because there will always be water on both sides.

Now, lets apply this. Some pictures might not be the best for showing how the system works, but its all I have. I took these when I was testing for leaks and if it worked.

So, the 2nd picture shows the front view. There are a total of 3 water intakes which are marked with red. The green arrows show the water flow thats transported through the siphon.

3rd picture shows the other side. In here, you can see how the water flow is sent downwards and then must make its way up so it can finally be sent to the sump. Notice how this creates like a box that will always hold water. So if the water level drops, there is always water on the other side and wont break the siphon.

So whats the valve and the twisted upward tube for? Well, the valve is so that you can fill the overflow with water so that you can start the siphon. The other thing you dont need it, it will still work if you leave it on but it will "suck" less water. Its just something I was experimenting with.

You can also place valves at the end to regulate how much water you want, thats what I did.

I hope this helps. The pictures should give you an idea on how to assemble it, if not, then I'll try making a step by step diagram on how to make one. But remmember that this can be improved so that it takes less space and works better. Please excuse my spelling and phrasing.
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Old 01-26-2005, 01:58 AM   #7
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I guess I'll throw in a side view.
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Old 01-26-2005, 11:50 AM   #8
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Interesting design ... how quiet is it?
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Old 01-26-2005, 04:25 PM   #9
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Ok, thats how I thought it worked, looks really nice. I built something close to that but not that complex.
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Old 01-26-2005, 04:52 PM   #10
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could this be built in a smaller scale? it looks like there are 2 returns to the sump? could the overflow be say half the size? with only one return to sump?
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Interesting design ... how quiet is it?
Noise is very minimum. It sounds like a small splashing water leak but you would have to cease all ambient noise. It really depends on how much water you are letting flow. I believe I'm running mine at 300-350 gph out of a possible 600 gph or even more. It's also important to drain slightly more water than what you input back into the tank or else, if you let run at full speed, the suction noise becomes annoying.
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Old 01-26-2005, 05:12 PM   #12
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could this be built in a smaller scale? it looks like there are 2 returns to the sump? could the overflow be say half the size? with only one return to sump?
Yes. I'm actually considering redoing it half its size and probably use 1/2" pvc. As long as you make the back loop to retain water it should be ok. Let me know if you do this and what were the outcomes.
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Old 01-26-2005, 09:42 PM   #13
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It's also important to drain slightly more water than what you input back into the tank or else, if you let run at full speed, the suction noise becomes annoying.
Care to elaborate? I think I know what you mean, but your phrasing is a bit confusing. A properly designed overflow is self limiting, it can only drain as much as is pumped into the tank. Are you saying that you have reduced the water return rate to aid in noise reduction?
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Old 01-26-2005, 11:13 PM   #15
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hey I was checkin this out on a diff board I thought it was a cool idea how long have you been running or testing it ?
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