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Old 01-23-2017, 07:35 AM   #1
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suggestion.

I've been looking for a place to post about my display refugium. Everytime i post it gets burried in a forum where usually i get tons of questions on Youtube and how do i get to do this.



I'm sure others have great refugium ideals and tricks to post but like me it gets burried with the flow.

I'm not saying i'm special i'm saying the refugium is an important part of the trade and some how its underscored and under represented. In that forum Identifications of friendly algae would be an assets also for those who wants to cultivate, or those who are going for pod production.

In any case. i'll just post a bit here to show you what i mean by possibilities with this thank you.


When i first started my display refugium, i treated it like another tank. With planing and not just thrown together and the result was pretty good.



My reason to make my refugium such a big part of my system is because i wanted to have a high nutrient system to accommodate my diversity from LPS, NPS, gorgonians and sponges.




The design involved the planing of a rock formation that would help with the filtration of both tanks, and offer an habitat to several species not quite meant for each other.hence de dive in the tank.





Its location above the reef was also calculated for the export of pods without being munched up by a pump so connected by a pipe and using only gravity.





The treatment of a complex refugium requires some dedication and involves reading a lot. More so because their isn't as much info about macro algae as their is fish or invert for that matter. So went through quite few mistakes to begin with.



For one thinking that algaes would just grow out of phosphate and nitrates; WRONG, Cheato can but more delicate and beautiful macro's needs a bit of TLC and some suppliments. like Iron; which is depleted quite fast.All the Iron in your tank is used in the first 20 min after its injection, its a chemical reaction actually that gives many macro's the ability to grow faster and better. Also part of their needs , high calcium will deter cyano and other pest algaes.



This conclude my presentation thank you.Hopefully a special forum will be created.

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Old 01-23-2017, 08:06 AM   #2
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Very nice Helmermud...what's the suggestion you are looking for?
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Old 01-23-2017, 08:09 AM   #3
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Very nice Helmermud...what's the suggestion you are looking for?
Hopefully a special forum will be created for refugium.
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Seems like it might be best to do so yourself in the Livestock section - http://www.thereeftank.com/forums/f177/

Just my 2 cents...
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Old 01-24-2017, 07:10 AM   #5
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In fishkeeping, a refugium is an appendage to a marine, brackish, or freshwater fish tank that shares the same water supply. It is a separate sump, connected to the main show tank.[1] It is a "refugium" in the sense that it permits organisms to be maintained that would not survive in the main system, whether food animals, anaerobic denitrifying bacteria, or photosynthesizers. For some applications water flow is limited in order to protect plants or animals that require slow flow. The refugium light cycle can be operated opposite to the main tank, in order to keep total system pH more stable (due to the uptake of acid-forming CO2 by photosynthesis occurring in the refugium during its "daylight" hours). One volume guideline for a refugium is 1:10 main tank volume.
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" One volume guideline for a refugium is 1:10 main tank volume. "

I personally dispute that ratio. Refugium are as effective as you want given a fair volume to your reef tank. Don't get me wrong, those who don't really have the room for a big or as i believe 1/3 of your reef tank is preferable ; will still have some benefits. Mainly the production of pods, but in no way can a 1/10 of a reef tank can absorbs or process phosphates and the rest to a proper level.

The 1/3 ratio on the other hand will have an influence on that process plus the added bonus that comes from more water, rocks , sand and what ever can supplement your population of your reef.

Mine for example is 1/2 the size of my tank, because i chose to make it into a display that is equal to my reef. Thus the benefits are larger and i can have a system geared toward a high nutrient system for my demanding bio load. I feed not only fishes, but sponges, gorgonians and NPS all with different supplements. Such a Huge amount for any ordinary refugium would overload any benefit if i hadn't increase that ratio to 1/2.
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The success of my refugium system is also due to some refinements i've done while building it.

Custom made ive made sure my refugium had a coast to coast overflow, just as my main reef tank.. An extraordinary addition that benefits the skimming process.



External like the main tank, the coast to coast skims a huge amount and help any skimmer to handle the overloads. The bulkhead on the side is the connection to the main reef.

2 inch underwater it prevents my fuge to dump its skimming into my main tank and the pods by gravity reaches the main tank without being munched up by a pump. That's the reason for the display fuge to be that high




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Old 01-24-2017, 07:16 AM   #7
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inspirational

I got my ideals from many source what to do and also what not to do or what i didn't want.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=798ap8LZdLM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxMRor7tj50


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWJlaE-lg7U


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNHfexKUFjM



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDm7L0Gsexo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtsZLgauGVE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLlX4dBlqJM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAhcBEFmj1c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWdhHEGFL7g
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Old 02-07-2017, 08:48 PM   #8
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I was just browsing through this sub forum, and noticed that Helmermud put some work into making this post. There's a bunch of pics and links here, all of which took time to put together, and there was no response at all from staff/mods. What's happened to this site?
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I was just browsing through this sub forum, and noticed that Helmermud put some work into making this post. There's a bunch of pics and links here, all of which took time to put together, and there was no response at all from staff/mods. What's happened to this site?
Thank you , yes i was wondering the same thing. On other site i got a lot of positive feedback . I know a lot of people are leaving the hobby for many reasons. Maybe their's less enthusiasm for it too. Tanks for taking the time , cheers.
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