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Old 07-15-2008, 02:11 AM   #1
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This popped up in my CP and it shows a post but i look at it and the last post is 05-28-08


on a side note and head way in the other CP problems ?
I know of a bunch people that are havening them but they "dont want to be a pest and report em."
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Old 07-15-2008, 08:10 AM   #2
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A poll will show up when someone votes even if they don't post a reply - so in that aspect it's working fine - it's letting you know the thread changed
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Old 07-15-2008, 08:44 AM   #3
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on a side note and head way in the other CP problems ?
I know of a bunch people that are havening them but they "dont want to be a pest and report em."
Well we won't know about them unless they're reported. Feel free to bring them up here, or if you're really daring use the "contact us" feature on the bottom of each page (that sends a note right to the administrator if you feel there's a serious issue that needs quick attention).
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Old 07-15-2008, 04:05 PM   #4
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yes please tell them to contact one of us. or even pm me if they want to.
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on a side note and head way in the other CP problems ?
I know of a bunch people that are havening them but they "dont want to be a pest and report em."


Please do have them report it - if something is affecting a bunch of people Tech support should hear it from everyone so they can narrow down the problem
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Old 07-16-2008, 09:38 PM   #6
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Just be careful how you tell them, you better be nice or they will think you are just an arrogant trouble maker, even if your desire is to get it fixed.

The CP is botched again though. There is also a major memory issue with TRT and the way it is coded.
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Old 07-17-2008, 06:58 AM   #7
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Just be careful how you tell them, you better be nice or they will think you are just an arrogant trouble maker, even if your desire is to get it fixed.
Maybe you should have said "you better be careful not to say it like an arrogant trouble maker, or they will think you are an arrogant trouble maker".

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The CP is botched again though. There is also a major memory issue with TRT and the way it is coded.
No arrogant trouble maker tones there, eh?

As with any new software, there are some bugs, they are being worked on, and any specific feedback we can get is helpful and appreciated.
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Old 07-17-2008, 01:41 PM   #8
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Maybe you should have said "you better be careful not to say it like an arrogant trouble maker, or they will think you are an arrogant trouble maker".

No arrogant trouble maker tones there, eh?

As with any new software, there are some bugs, they are being worked on, and any specific feedback we can get is helpful and appreciated.

Hello i like what they did with the cp !


It is olny Arrogant if he could not back up what he says.
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Old 07-17-2008, 02:20 PM   #9
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It is olny Arrogant if he could not back up what he says.
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There is also a major memory issue with TRT and the way it is coded.
He doesn't have access to the code, nor memory on the servers TRT runs on.....
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Old 07-17-2008, 05:39 PM   #10
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While it is true that TRT may have a few bugs right now i really want to stress that the overall site is running fine. i have not seen or heard of any problems with the simple purposes of the site, posting, searching, sending and receiving PM's... remember that we are here to learn and share about our tanks... if there is a problem then please by all means let us know, but then return to reefin and reading and let the tech team fix things. these folks are not sitting on their hands. they have done some great new stuff with the site and when you consider the amount of change they have made, the amount of problems is much smaller than it could be.

lets all get back to reefin and work around the issues till they get fixed. it is a free site after all.
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I am not a politically correct person. Never have been, probably never will be. I simply state what I think and let people read it. With that said, please read this post with an open mind and read what it says, and don't infer any tones into it. It has no "tone" to the post and is not meant as a flame post.

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Maybe you should have said "you better be careful not to say it like an arrogant trouble maker, or they will think you are an arrogant trouble maker".
Perhaps. The written language is more about the perception of the reader than of the writer. If people took it that way, then they took it that way. It wasn't meant that way. It was merely an observation of my own from reactions to being told there was a problem and conversations I have had with people on TRT (One of them a Mod).


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No arrogant trouble maker tones there, eh?

As with any new software, there are some bugs, they are being worked on, and any specific feedback we can get is helpful and appreciated.
And I will give credit where credit is due. The CP does actually work better now. It is nowhere near as bad as it was even two days ago. And yes, it takes time to work out bugs but there has been a problem with the CP for almost 6 months now.

I opened the CP a few minutes ago to do the test listed below. It showed 43 threads. I browsed 15 of them, now it shows 19. There is still an issue but its getting a lot better.

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It is olny Arrogant if he could not back up what he says.
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He doesn't have access to the code, nor memory on the servers TRT runs on.....
That is true, I don't have access to the server side code. But I wasn't referring to server side code, I was referring to the client side code for TRT. The client side code being the HTML, CSS and Javascript that the site uses that runs on the client. It can also include Java applets, Flash apps and some other things.

Want a simple test to see the memory issue?
Re-boot your PC.
Open your browser.
Open TRT.
Right click on the taskbar and pull up the Task Manager.
Go to the Processes tab.
Make note of the memory usage of the browser. Whether it be Firefox, Internet Explorer, Opera or Safari.
Browse thirty threads on TRT. Look again at the memory usage.
Open a second tab in the browser, close the TRT tab.
Look at the memory usage again.

It has gotten better since the upgrades to the CP but it is still there. It is a memory leak and it is caused by what is known in programming as a closure. A closure is when an object has a circular reference to itself. It is, predominantly, caused by anonymous functions in Javascript. There are other ways to create them but anonymous functions are the biggest cause of them.

The simplest analogy I can give for what a closure is is to think of a room full of people where people point at each other. Invariably, someone ends up pointing at themself. It isn't exactly what happens but it is close.
The only way to free up the memory that the closure uses is to close the browser. Simply closing the page won't free it up.

This is a link to the comp.lang.javascript Usenet group FAQ:
http://www.jibbering.com/faq/
This is a notes section written by Richard Cornford on closures:
http://www.jibbering.com/faq/faq_notes/closures.html

Richard was the Editor at one time of the FAQ, the new editor might be of interest to some people.
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I am not a politically correct person. Never have been, probably never will be. I simply state what I think and let people read it.



If people took it that way, then they took it that way. It wasn't meant that way.
Yes, it was meant that way and you admit it in the same post. Now, if you'd like to continue further, please take it to PM, this conversation is not appropriate in this forum.
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