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03-05-2003, 04:11 PM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Omaha, NE
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Zoanthid Toxicity!
Well I was reading over on Reef Central, and stumbled upon a very sad story I thought everyone should read. Basically a fellow reefer was fragging zoanthids and his dog put his head into the bucket water that the zoanthids were sitting in and was poisoned by the zoanthids toxins. (Palytoxin to be exact) The dog died about 12 hours after the contact with the zoanthids. I just thought this was a good wake up call for all of us who keep tanks and work with these creatures.
It really hits home with me since my yellow lab is always sitting at my feet when I am working on my tank. Here is the link:
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...hreadid=158663
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Last edited by karsco; 03-05-2003 at 04:36 PM.
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03-05-2003, 04:45 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: The Void
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This has come up several times indeed.
But not all zo's are toxic. Palythoa/Protopalythoa are the beasts commonly presenting significant risk. Exposure (particularly of mucal membrane) to palytoxin produces numbness and even paralysis.
If the dog ingested the toxin in significant amounts, this could lead to an inabilty to swallow and properly coordinate its breathing.
horge
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03-05-2003, 04:57 PM
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The Border Collie Mod
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: right now? in my chair
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And the number one offender
Palythoa caribaeorum
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03-06-2003, 04:22 PM
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Big Fishy
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Martinez, CA
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nasty! i have some brown ones that just rubbing your skin against them causes them to burn for several hours afterwards.
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03-06-2003, 08:14 PM
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Jerel, is there ANY way you could make that pic smaller?
As it is, the sheer breadth and height of it, the clarity ...makes me faint.
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03-06-2003, 09:43 PM
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The Border Collie Mod
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HEY dodo head, it's the only one I could find on Google!
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08-09-2003, 02:35 AM
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Ghost of reefers past
Join Date: Jan 1999
Location: Southern Oregon, Way West of Dimples ;)
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``Yellow ones as I recall are common and nasty palyotoxin producers. Even some of the run of the mill and less noxious can cause reactions in sensitive individuals. I think TD Wyatt has had a few off encounters fragging ordinary zooanthids. In some individuals this might be an accumulative thing like bee stings in some people. Never bother, stung lots , then one day BAM.l
Defenatly be careful when fragging these guys and most everything for that matter. easy to get a nick in skin when wielding a razor blade under water. Always wash up thoroughly afterward when fragging, don't smoke or eat till you have washed really well, and IMO surgical scrub would not be overkill with known antagonistics 
Be careful in there 
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08-09-2003, 03:16 AM
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dont get started....are these toxic yes.....is there freak accidents...yes.... imo is it over exagerated...yes... dont have open wounds on your arms and hands...and youll be fine.... but there are many things in your tank to watchout for....got any lps...guesswhat they will sting you....got a lion watch out he could stick ya.... geeze its to bad that these beautiful corals have such a bad rap....i have a ton of zoanthids and i frag them every day...never had a reaction....
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08-09-2003, 03:29 AM
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Ghost of reefers past
Join Date: Jan 1999
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Hopefully your luck will continue, remember Murphy LOVES reefers and dirtbike riders trust me on this 
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08-09-2003, 11:09 AM
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lol
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08-10-2003, 11:45 AM
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senior member
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Walnut Grove, SC, USA
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for some spp of zoos all it takes is exposure to the mucus of cut specimens. I wear gloves now, every time...
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Last edited by tdwyatt; 08-10-2003 at 11:53 AM.
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