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Old 01-16-2009, 10:43 AM   #1
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200g display / 400g system build


hello! new here - thought i'd share my new build. this is an upgrade/rebuild of my last system. my last display was the same size, but was an old acrylic tank. i had the new glass tank built to the same dimensions so i could simply swap out the display, but decided to take the opportunity to upgrade nearly every other component of the system. the improvements should yield healthier/happier livestock and many maintenance convenience features (mobile light rack, automated water changes, etc).

display info:
dimensions: 80x24x25
volume: ~205g
overflow: centered and 5" off the back wall, sized 12x6
glass: 1/2" euro-braced w/ front starphire glass
sump: 100g stock tank + 50g stock tank remote dsb + 50g stock tank for additional water volume and water change tank

equipment:
4 x 250w phoenix de bulbs in lumenarc mini reflectors
2 x dual 250w pfo hqi ballasts
light rack on aluminum rails to allow full access over the tank
2 x ecotech vortech mp40w wireless controllable pumps
tunze wavebox
mrc mr-3 dual beckett skimmer w/ 6" custom neck / pcx-55
octopus dual chamber calcium reactor w/ reef fanatics ph controller
panworld 100px-x return pump
nextreef "monster" fluidized reactors for gfo and carbon
two little fishes phosban reactor to treat calcium reactor effluent
reefkeeper 2
2 x 300w heaters
spears schedule 80 true union/ball valves

a notable point to make about the rock. all the rock i am using is recycled liverock from my previous system. in an aquarium setting, liverock will absorb nitrates and phosphates over time. this doesn't happen in the ocean because there is so much water volume, but in a confined system it does happen. eventually the rock will leach the bound nutrients back into the water. i wanted to be sure to cleanse the rock of all impurities and bound nutrients. following instructions from randy holmes-farley, i followed the following process to break down the surface of the rock, thereby releasing the bound organics:

remove and place all rock in container just large enough for the rock. (stock tank, etc)

cover rock in ro/di. add 2-3 cups of bleech and a powerhead large enough to circulate the water effectively.

drain 24 hours later, cover again in ro/di, then drain. this is important (rinsing the bleech) because you don't want to combine an acid with a base which could happen if you skip this step and go onto the next...

cover the rock again w/ ro/di. add approximately 1/2 gallon of muriatic acid and circulate w/ the powerhead (powerhead will be nice and clean at the end! ). the rocks will bubble and you'll get a nasty frothy foam from the junk at the surface. once the rock stops bubbling, add the other 1/2 of the muriatic acid. this will make it bubble again. it only bubbles for an hour or two, then stops.

drain, then rinse in ro/di at least one more time.

it's important to use ro/di and not tap water because tap water contains so many phosphates/nitrates/etc and it defeats part of the cleansing purpose to soak your rock in it.


i will note that as of the first test fill and final rinse of my rock and sand, po4 results with a hanna meter yielded 0.02 - i'm very happy with this and feel based on this that the cleansing process was effective.

here is the initial idea for the display. three towers, one surrounding a center overflow 5" off the back wall. this allows the wavebox to fire down the back of the tank completely hidden from view, and provide the possibility for circular flow.



this is the basic sump idea... 100g stock tank at the very bottom (actual sump) with two 50g stock tanks stacked above it. top 50g tank to be used for water changes...it is a part of the system which has a drain to my sink. i simply take it offline (ball valve), drain it, refill w/ ro/di and then mix new salt. after a day of mixing, add it back to the system. it drains into the 50g stock tank below it when added to the system, which is a remote deep sand bed and frag tank.



here is the tank after delivery:



first rock tower built:



all rock towers built:

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Old 01-16-2009, 10:44 AM   #2
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shots from the back of the tank showing the water channel behind the structures - allows for easy blowing off of the rocks weekly and reduces place for ditritus to settle:







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Old 01-16-2009, 10:46 AM   #3
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construction of the sump rig:



plumbing beginning - all spears brand valves!





drain plumbing merges so that all drains flow through one filter sock to be changed daily. in addition, my fluidized reactors are fed into the drain line so any residual media dusting is caught in the filter sock (changed daily):





this is the drain for the fluidized reactors - it is a 3" to 1.5" reducer fitting - drain lines from the reactors get fed down this.

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Old 01-16-2009, 10:47 AM   #4
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pressure side of the plumbing:



these valves feed the upper stock tanks. i don't have the top one running yet because i still need to run the drain to the sink. with the valves in this config i would be doing a water change - top tank is offline while it fills (float valve from ro/di unit) and mixes salt. then the water is added back to the system when i reverse the valves. top tank drains to the bottom one.



these four 1/2" valves are feed valves for my calcium reactor and fluidized reactors. there is a fourth for system growth, but for now i'll make a U over to the table drain and use it for water samples, etc.





nextreef reactors plumbed:



also - a video of the skimmer up and running. note that there is no bioload on the tank yet and it is still pulling crud!

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Old 01-16-2009, 11:11 AM   #5
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Looks good so far. I think I've seen this over at RC, no? What are your stocking plans down the road, and how long have you had water in it so far?

And of course, Welcome to TRT! thanks for sharing the tank with us!
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Old 01-16-2009, 11:17 AM   #6
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hello and thank you for the warm welcome!

you may have seen a thread on "that other site" of the very beginning pictures, however "that other site" doesn't like me because of my association with a local reef specialty retail shop. because of this, they simply don't allow me to post there anymore. it's a shame, too, because i was a long-time member there in good standing with thousands of posts. i guess the almighty dollar is still more important to them than quality members.

at any rate, i will keep the thread up to date here with progress.

currently there is water flowing through the system - and it is crystal clear! a friend was over the other day and i went to point at some rock near the bottom of the center tower and accidentally touched the glass...it is that hard to tell where the water begins! starfire is an amazing thing...

i have added a scoop of sand from a friend's well-established system to begin seeding my dsb. other than that, it remains empty while cycling.

cheers!
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Old 01-16-2009, 11:21 AM   #7
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one more post with pictures of the mobile light rail. this provides full access over the tank during maintenance, as it is on 6 ft rails and slides completely out of the way over the sump/equipment table.



each reflector is aimed over the front of the rock structures:





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Old 01-16-2009, 01:36 PM   #8
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Well we're glad to have you, and I look forward to seeing this build out! I've sent frags to ylchik a couple times, maybe you'll have to get in on the next round!
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Old 01-16-2009, 01:38 PM   #9
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cool! ylchik is hosting our local reef club's meeting this weekend.
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Old 01-16-2009, 01:49 PM   #10
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Very nice looking set up, I like your rock set up! Good Work, I can't wait until we buy our new house so I can do a large build
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Old 01-17-2009, 12:31 PM   #11
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cool! ylchik is hosting our local reef club's meeting this weekend.
I heard my name and came running!

Ben sorry about the drama in other places, but I think you will find we are a pretty friendly bunch of here and you have already figured out the way to most of our hearts - small amounts of words and large amounts of pictures!

Tank is looking good, but I would expect nothing less from you at this point!

Question, what size stock tanks are those? They look shorter than most of the ones I have seen.
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Old 01-17-2009, 01:36 PM   #12
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thanks amy!

the bottom stock tank (the main "sump") is a 100 gallon stock tank. the two stock tanks on the table are 50 gallon stock tanks. they share the same footprint as the 100g, but are half the height.

another quick update...

today i hooked up the calcium reactor's feed line and added a nextreef mr1 shorty in-line after the calcium reactor to process out phosphate from the calcium media. i've read from multiple places that calcium reactor effluent if tested with a hannah meter will read off the scale. rather than counting on the main gfo reactor to catch and process this phosphate out of the water, i'm running the output through a dedicated gfo reactor before it ever enters the tank water.

reactor feed valve with john guest fitting:



mr1 shorty in-line after calcium reactor - the valve on the input is to fine tune the flow coming out of the calcium reactor. this way any pressure build-up stays in the calcium reactor and doesn't accumulate inside the gfo reactor. the output goes into the table drain which ultimately exits into the filter sock below.



one last shot of the equipment table, now "complete":

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Ben in all honesty I didn't read through the whole thread, my bad I know, but do you talk about the acid bath in here anywhere.... I suggested it as an alternative to cooking rock to someone the other day and linked off BNARC, but would love to know if it's here.

Also, how long have you or John or anyone else that has done this had the rock wet after the bath, are you seeing any difference? I am seriously considering doing it for my sons tank when we get it up and running again.
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Any, he speaks of using bleach, rinsing, and then using muriatic acid and rinsing again in the very first post.

This is a great looking build. Did you use some type of a saw on the live rock? I was wondering as the back sides look nice and smooth in some areas like you cut them to fit.

I am looking forward to following your progress as well.
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Old 01-20-2009, 09:15 AM   #15
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yes...amy, the rock cleansing info is in the first post - it is the part in italics.

aquawolf - no saw on the rocks. i think i understand what you are seeing and asking about, though. the bottom part of the right tower (from the front) is a shelf piece of "marco rock". it is exteremely flat and it has a clean break. i put the clean break on the back side so it wouldn't look odd from the front. on top of that piece is a large piece of dead coral skeleton...it is a decorative piece from a friend who had it left over from his fish only days. it looks a little bit out of place right now because it is stark white, as most decorative dead coral skeletons are. ...but i figure as it ages and covers in the typical reef tank coraline algaes and corals, it should become a very unique piece.

same with this newest addition, a barnacle rock i picked up from a fellow reef club member this weekend. i had been wanting a piece to put out in the sandbed on this side to break up some of the flow causing a sand mound - and this is perfect. again, a little out of place for now, but just imagine this piece once it ages. i think i'll probably cover it in encrusting colorful montis...should be pretty killer. plus, i can already envision blennies popping in and out of the holes.

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