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Old 11-22-2001, 06:25 PM   #1
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Need Help With DIY Rubbermaid/Steralite Sump


I am currently setting up a 20gal sump for my 100gal, 3 year old tank. I just ordered a new Turbofloater skimmer and it will not fit in my current sump (no room under tank for additional sump)!! I am making the sump out of a steralite container. I have already installed a 1" bulkhead for my return pump (Iwaki md40rlxt). My concern is with bubbles. I heard there is no way to do any partitions in a steralite/rubbermaid sump because of the flexability. Any ideas? Would also like any ideas for where the overflow hose goes into the sump. I would like to run a little sponge/pad and some carbon. Not quite sure how to complete this.

ANY advice would be appreciated and pics would be nice to!!

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Old 11-22-2001, 07:29 PM   #2
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The one thing that I can think of is to build a box type chamber that would fit in the rubbermaid that would have baffles in it.
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Old 11-22-2001, 08:33 PM   #3
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Yes, you can build a box like container that has slots to slide in popular sized filer media. You can just let your tank drain line (or skimmer return) drop water into this container such that it is forced through baffels or filer media on the way out. Get some plexi glass from a home improvement store and have fun with it.

Just make sure that the water can by-pass the filter media in some manor if it becomes dirty or plugged up. Leaving the top open would probably do this.
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Old 11-23-2001, 02:08 AM   #4
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Very good info!!! I do have some plexi around!

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Old 11-23-2001, 09:39 AM   #5
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Just remember that the baffles dont have to be sealed around the edges. What you are trying to do is slow down the flow of water enough to allow the bubbles to rise and burst.. I have had great success using plexiglass in my rubbermaid.

Here's an effective way to baffle around your return pump. The idea is to make two (or more) baffle enclousures into which you sit your return pump.

1. determine the average depth of water in your sump. cut a strip of plexiglass as wide as that measurement. This strip needs to be long enough so you can bend it into a square (or a circle, doesnt matter which) which will provide enough room to set your pump iinto. Also, make it large enough so you can place the next baffle you're going to make inside of it.

2. Now make another strip . Cut it about 1/2" narrower than the water height measurement. Bend this strip so that it fits inside the first one leaving about 1" of space all around it.

3. Find some PVC or large flexible tubing and cut 4 or 6 1" long pieces. These will be used as legs for the larger plexi box. Notch them with a hack saw and fix them to the bottom of the first plexiglass box u made. They need to elevate the piece at least 1/2"

Ok, so the idea is that the first baffle makes the water flow under it, and the second baffle, which has no legs and sits on the bottom makes the water flow over it.

There is no need to seal the ends of this baffle so it's a solid box, just bend it so they meet fairly closely.

Hopefully this drawing will explain it better.

The view on the left of this pic is top view looking down, showing the two plexiglass strips bent into a box. The right side of the pic illustrates a cut away side view, showing the outter box being elevated, the inner flush on the bottom.

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Old 11-23-2001, 12:39 PM   #6
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Bill,

I stared at that post and the diagram for awhile. Then "BANG"....I GOT IT!!!!!!!!!LOL! That is a very good idea! Have you tried this or no? Could you think of another product other than acrylic to use? I defintly think this is the way Im gonna do it!

Thanks Bill!!!!!!!
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Old 11-23-2001, 01:07 PM   #7
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Yes, I've been running like this for over a year.
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Old 11-24-2001, 11:24 AM   #8
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I do have to warn you about steralite containers, they are normally 'brittle'

I've used one before as a surge bucket, I had to drill 2 buckets, as they shattered when I drilled a hole for a bulkhead, its not a great material so my small suggestion, make sure your bottom portion is fully supported, as they do crack if I stand in one. (raised feet seem to be the culprit)

sorry to say this as my first post - but I saw this, and I had to read and make sure you will know this MIGHT happen. if you feel its solid - GREAT.
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Old 11-24-2001, 01:01 PM   #10
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Clyde,

You're right. I use a rubbermaid for my sump. It's flexible and it's a good thing too as I have to contort it to get it in and out from under my tank.
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Old 11-25-2001, 05:03 AM   #11
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A simple idea I have used is a plastic bucket or tupperware container. Cut it off just above your water line and feed the return water into it. It will overflow into the rest of your sump and when it does the bubbles will be driven to the surface just as with a baffel. Cheap and easy.
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