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08-06-2003, 11:27 PM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: colorado springs
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How to get air out of my overflows.
I am running 3 overflows with 2 one inch u tubes in each one. I have a Durso Standpipe in each overflow. I am sucking too much air. My tank always looks cloudy because of the little air bubbles comeing out of my sump. Any ideas on how to stop this.
I have 1 inch vinyl tubing coming out of each one. one of them ends above the water in the sump and two of them end below the water in the sump.
I have two new overflows coming that should be able to keep up with the pumps. I just dont want to have any more air bubbles in the tank.
Thank you for all your help.
Blue Man
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125 gal
2 under tank filters.3 overflows. 2 Power heads 2 oceanrunner OR 6500
30 LBS LS, 150 lbs LR
,2 perc clowns, 1 med hippo tang, 1 med yellow tang, 1 bi color blenny, 1 royal gramma, 1 carpenter flassher wrasse, 1 tri color wrasse.
Snails , mushrooms, open brain, ball sponge, 3 gorgonian, hammer, bubble, frog spawn, devils hand, toad stool, xina, BTA, pogda, star polups, pipe organ.
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08-06-2003, 11:58 PM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Wilmington, NC
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I would look more at keeping the bubbles in the sump from reaching the pump. Bubbles in your sump are going to occur. Try setting up some kind of basic baffle system. With more information about how your sump is plumbed I could give you a better answer about a remedy.
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08-07-2003, 12:07 AM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: colorado springs
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It is really basic. I have 2 different sumps. One is a LS and LR with calerpa (sp) the overflow runs in to a hole in th side that flows in to the tank. I have a hole at the bottom where the pump sucks the water out and up to the tank.
The other tank has my protein skimmer in it and heater. The return pump is sumped and it pumps back up to the tank. We figure I am moving about 1400 to 1600 GPH.
Chris
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125 gal
2 under tank filters.3 overflows. 2 Power heads 2 oceanrunner OR 6500
30 LBS LS, 150 lbs LR
,2 perc clowns, 1 med hippo tang, 1 med yellow tang, 1 bi color blenny, 1 royal gramma, 1 carpenter flassher wrasse, 1 tri color wrasse.
Snails , mushrooms, open brain, ball sponge, 3 gorgonian, hammer, bubble, frog spawn, devils hand, toad stool, xina, BTA, pogda, star polups, pipe organ.
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08-07-2003, 12:32 AM
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Reefless Reefer
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Durham, NC
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do you know which sump the bubbles are coming from? is it the skimmer? if you turn off the skimmer do the bubbles go away/decrease. i agree with lady00 that it is more important to keep the bubbles from getting to the pump than to stop bubbles from the overflows. can you post a pic of the plumbing setup?
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08-07-2003, 01:02 AM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: colorado springs
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ok .... How do I stop them from gettin to my pump.
NO it is not from my skimmer. I hooked that up yesterday. This was going on before.
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125 gal
2 under tank filters.3 overflows. 2 Power heads 2 oceanrunner OR 6500
30 LBS LS, 150 lbs LR
,2 perc clowns, 1 med hippo tang, 1 med yellow tang, 1 bi color blenny, 1 royal gramma, 1 carpenter flassher wrasse, 1 tri color wrasse.
Snails , mushrooms, open brain, ball sponge, 3 gorgonian, hammer, bubble, frog spawn, devils hand, toad stool, xina, BTA, pogda, star polups, pipe organ.
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08-07-2003, 02:09 AM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Northern California
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Hey Bluemandj,
I had the same problem with my overflow. I found out that the overflow will suck air if my flow rate on the return pump was too low.
Have you tried increasing the flow of your return? |
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08-07-2003, 09:47 AM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: colorado springs
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I was sucking the sumps dry. That is why I have 3 overflows with 2 one inch U tubes in each.
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125 gal
2 under tank filters.3 overflows. 2 Power heads 2 oceanrunner OR 6500
30 LBS LS, 150 lbs LR
,2 perc clowns, 1 med hippo tang, 1 med yellow tang, 1 bi color blenny, 1 royal gramma, 1 carpenter flassher wrasse, 1 tri color wrasse.
Snails , mushrooms, open brain, ball sponge, 3 gorgonian, hammer, bubble, frog spawn, devils hand, toad stool, xina, BTA, pogda, star polups, pipe organ.
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08-07-2003, 10:02 AM
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Big Fishy
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Vancouver, WA
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One thing to check...how far does the water drop from the overflow to the sump? Sometimes if the drain from the overflow to the sump is more than say 8 inches, you might want to put a pipe (flex pvc works great on this) from the bottom of the over flow closer to the sump. Mine was doing that also, so I added a 9 inch flex pvc to be the drain closer to the sump. Less splash in the sump, less bubbles...then I added about 4 pieces about soft ball size of LR to take care of the other little bubbles. Result...no more air bubbles in the tank
Last edited by squid; 08-07-2003 at 10:23 AM.
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08-07-2003, 10:06 AM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: colorado springs
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do you ahve a pic?
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125 gal
2 under tank filters.3 overflows. 2 Power heads 2 oceanrunner OR 6500
30 LBS LS, 150 lbs LR
,2 perc clowns, 1 med hippo tang, 1 med yellow tang, 1 bi color blenny, 1 royal gramma, 1 carpenter flassher wrasse, 1 tri color wrasse.
Snails , mushrooms, open brain, ball sponge, 3 gorgonian, hammer, bubble, frog spawn, devils hand, toad stool, xina, BTA, pogda, star polups, pipe organ.
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08-07-2003, 10:16 AM
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Big Fishy
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Vancouver, WA
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give me a sec, I'll take one
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08-07-2003, 10:21 AM
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Big Fishy
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Vancouver, WA
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here ya go...don't look at the skimmer LOL
Oh and before i forget, Lady00, I'm not a surplus store LOL (previous post)
Last edited by squid; 08-07-2003 at 10:45 AM.
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08-07-2003, 10:27 AM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: colorado springs
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my drop is 4.5 feet. So I would use streight PVC pipe that distance with a elbow in to the tank??
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125 gal
2 under tank filters.3 overflows. 2 Power heads 2 oceanrunner OR 6500
30 LBS LS, 150 lbs LR
,2 perc clowns, 1 med hippo tang, 1 med yellow tang, 1 bi color blenny, 1 royal gramma, 1 carpenter flassher wrasse, 1 tri color wrasse.
Snails , mushrooms, open brain, ball sponge, 3 gorgonian, hammer, bubble, frog spawn, devils hand, toad stool, xina, BTA, pogda, star polups, pipe organ.
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08-07-2003, 10:31 AM
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Big Fishy
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Vancouver, WA
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THAT"s why you have bubbles...to far a drop. IMO
Either or on the PVC. I've found the flex is more flexable to work with..no need for elbow's one straight line with a curve here and there...Doing this will also reduce the noise of overflow to the sump.
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08-07-2003, 11:00 AM
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Reefless Reefer
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Durham, NC
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Quote:
Originally posted by BLUEMANDJ
I was sucking the sumps dry. That is why I have 3 overflows with 2 one inch U tubes in each.
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what size pump do you have! it could also be that velocity of the water in the sump is to fast, not allowing the bubbles any chance to escape.
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08-07-2003, 11:07 AM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: colorado springs
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2 oceanrunner OR6500. At 4.5 foot of head it is pushing about 800 gph.
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125 gal
2 under tank filters.3 overflows. 2 Power heads 2 oceanrunner OR 6500
30 LBS LS, 150 lbs LR
,2 perc clowns, 1 med hippo tang, 1 med yellow tang, 1 bi color blenny, 1 royal gramma, 1 carpenter flassher wrasse, 1 tri color wrasse.
Snails , mushrooms, open brain, ball sponge, 3 gorgonian, hammer, bubble, frog spawn, devils hand, toad stool, xina, BTA, pogda, star polups, pipe organ.
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