Wrass suitable for reef compatible with below fish

[dearis]

Hi there,

I previously posted that I am planning a 10 foot full reef. I have a wish list of fish and was hoping to include 1 or 2 wrass that are reef safe with corals and anenomes and compatible with the following fish.

M Green Mandarin Synchiropus splendidus
FM Green Mandarin Synchiropus splendidus

Powder Blue Tang Acanthurus leucosternon
Blue Tang Paracanthurus hepatus
Yellow Tang Zebrasoma flavescens

Flame Angelfish Centropyge loriculus
Golden Pygmy Angel Centropyge aurantia

Royal Gramma Basslet Gramma loreto
Brazilian Gramma Basslet Gramma brasiliensis

Purple Firefish Nemateleotris decora
Firefish Nemateleotris magnifica

Redlip Blenny Ophioblennius atlanticus
Lawnmower Blenny Salarias fasciatus

Yellowstripe Maroon or Maroon Clownfish Premnas biaculeatus

Orchid Dottyback Pseudochromis fridmani

Flaming Prawn Goby Discordipinna griessingeri
Yellow Rose Goby Stonogobiops nematodes
Twinspot Goby Signigobius biocellatus
Catalina Goby Lythrypnus dalli
Neon Goby Elacatinus oceanops

Long Nose Hawkfish Oxycirrhites typus

I also understand that some of these fish will be out due to compatibility with each other and corals. But I really like the wrass family. The sixline wrass is out as i want to keep the pods in the tank for the mandarins.
Also if there are any other delightful fish that you think would go with these fish please suggest.

Regards Darren

[tims]

what type of substrate are you thinking?
a lot of wrasses likeot buryand sleep for the night

[know-it-all]

also depends on what wrasses you have available.
I know from talking with guys from South Africa,
they don't have access to the same fish as the people in the states
or Europe

that said, flasher wrasses should go pretty well in a reef

now, on to bigger issues
IMO, purple firefish don't mix well witht he reds
I've seen them be a bit more agressive

and Catalina Gobies are a moderate water fish
not suited for a reef
they do best at 70F deg

[dearis]

Hi Tim,

to be honest I am unsure, however suffice it to say I do not like the look of bare bottomed tanks. I am leaning towards a deep bed of coral sand/crushed coral/crushed granite now having said that I am unsure what the inplications are of a deep bed. I have read.heard that over time a toxic gas can be released from the bed. If I can solve that problem or issue the a deep bed is the way to go.

Regards Darren

P.S. the tank needs to be relatively peaceful

[tims]

hmmmmmmmmmm,
i did not thnk abouthte was is near you to order, what types are the LFS able to get for you?

as far as the DSB, try and stay away from the larger CC stuff, that will be a head acke waiting to happen. but a nice deep sand bed 4-6 inches is fine, as long as you do clean it you shoudl not have too much problems withit, a lot of times people doa DSB and just forget about it, then one day decide to make it look loke new and bam..... regular manitanace is the key.

[dearis]

G'day,

here is a site that has a rough list of available fish in Oz

http://www.reeflectionsaquarium.com/fishmarine.html

this has a list of fish commonly available at a LFS near me

Regards Darren

P.S. one wrass i do like is a bananna wrass(i think its called)....dont know if its suitable though

[know-it-all]

Originally Posted by dearis

G'day,

here is a site that has a rough list of available fish in Oz

http://www.reeflectionsaquarium.com/fishmarine.html

this has a list of fish commonly available at a LFS near me

Regards Darren

P.S. one wrass i do like is a bananna wrass(i think its called)....dont know if its suitable though

depends on what you call "reef safe"
I've got a lime green wrasse (sometimes called a banana wrasse)
but probably not the one your thinking of

he loves clams (to death)
but other than that

it's reef safe

[Geoff]

i really would stay away from any wrasses if you plan on keeping a mandarin. wrasses are very aggressive feeders. they will eat anything, whether it is live or prepared. the bannana wrasse is the same way. they are great at removing pyramid snails from clams, but they do also like to eat pods. if you really want a wrasse than i would suggest putting a lunar wrasse in your predator tank.

G~

P.S.-you do realize that in a few years you will need to replace your DSB. this can be rather annoying after all of your corals have grown.

[tims]

dearis, there is one of our members from down under he has a site too. i thinkit is got fish.
he may also be able to get things in for you.
the mandrins willnot be able to go in until a maybe a good year, that way you pod population and parameters are good and stable.

[dearis]

G'day Tim,

was going to wait a year for mandarins, and I think I know the guy you are talking about.

As for the bananna wrass he is out was hoping to get clams

Regards Darren

[tims]

Darren,
if you run in to James tell him i said hello... it has been too long sincei spoke with him.

well you can alwasy set up a tank for guys that might be trouble too

[dearis]

G'day Tims,

thats not the guy i was thinking of lol. And as for the other tank, have plans on the back burner for a large predator tank. Volitans and a snowflake ell, not sure what else would go in there but thinking of it. @ 10footers facing into different room. The reef facing the lounge room, the predatore tank behind my bar

Regards Darren

[reefBoyDc]

All the advice you just got comes form much smarter people than me, but i was just shopping for a wrasse and here's my info:

1. most wrasses are NOT reef-safe
2. fairy wrasses are fine, and very beautiful
3. 6-line wrasses are good and eat undesirables like flatworms
4. lunar wrasses are very beautiful but eat shrimp and clams, dont get one.
5. i think cleaner wrasses are good too, but dont take my word for it.

mandarins are a tricky fish. some people have success, most dont. HTH!

[alaskaknucklehead]

Cleaner wrasses have a very poor survival rate...

[Geoff]

Originally Posted by Geoff

they are great at removing pyramid snails from clams, but they do also like to eat pods.

you are not reading what i wrote.

i think bannana wrasses are great to keep with clams. i plan on keeping one just for the fact that they eat pyramid snails. i had a decent outbreak of them in my tank. i got a bannana wrasse and it kept them under control. the problem is not the clams it is the fact that while looking small snails to eat they will eat pods. therefore competing with the mandarin for food.

G~