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09-14-2006, 09:38 AM
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Shark
Join Date: Mar 2005
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Why is my clam dying
hey all. I have this large beutiful clam (bright blue and purple) that all of a sudden has its mantle all shrivelled up and it looks like pulling away from the shell. it was thriving and then yesterday it was closed and today it is half way open and shrivelled. it is in a 50 gallon with 1 250 watt MH XM 20k mogul bulb over it with a lumenarc 4 reflector. all my corals and sps are fine as well as my other clam. temp 78, salinity 1.025 I will check everything else when I get home.
What is going on? Can I save it? It looks really bad.
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09-14-2006, 10:11 AM
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Shark
Join Date: Jul 2006
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I just bought a clam a few weeks ago and I know very little about them. I was having a problem with one of my fish trying to eat the clam. Through the process I learned of a snail (pyramid snail) that eats clams. My understanding is it eats through the shell and drains them. Check for theses snails and see if you have any. I had one and had to pull it off. Not sure if that helps.
Good Luck!
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09-14-2006, 11:10 AM
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Just some guy, you know?
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Originally Posted by partobe
My understanding is it eats through the shell and drains them.
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Close, it is a nocternal snail that is very small and will only really be seen at night. Druing the day they hide under the clam, or in it's scoots if your clam has that. They also lay their eggs in the scoots, or by the clam's foot. At night these snails come out walk up the shell and poke into the clam's mantle, to drain the juces from it. This will eventually cause death, these snails will also attack astrena snailes when all the clams are gone.
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09-14-2006, 11:13 AM
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Just some guy, you know?
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Originally Posted by Jasontkd
hey all. I have this large beutiful clam (bright blue and purple) that all of a sudden has its mantle all shrivelled up and it looks like pulling away from the shell. it was thriving and then yesterday it was closed and today it is half way open and shrivelled. it is in a 50 gallon with 1 250 watt MH XM 20k mogul bulb over it with a lumenarc 4 reflector. all my corals and sps are fine as well as my other clam. temp 78, salinity 1.025 I will check everything else when I get home.
What is going on? Can I save it? It looks really bad.
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Can you get a pic of what the clam looks like?
How long have you had the clam?
Would you say it is in a high light area of your tank?
This kinda sounds like pinched mantle.
Whiskey
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09-14-2006, 11:37 AM
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Shark
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Shawnee, KS
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I can try to get a pic when I get home tonight. It seems to be deteriorating very quickly. I have notices a lot of tiny snails in my tank lately. I thought they looked like turbos. I just figured the had babies, but I could be wrong, but they are everywhere. I have had the clam for about 6 months and moved it to my 50 when i got rid of the 150 it was in. my whole tank is lit really well, and it was doing fine right where it is, but then all of a sudden yesterday it was all shrivelled.
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09-14-2006, 11:59 AM
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Just some guy, you know?
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If the snailes are out during the day, and all over the tank rather than all over the clam then they probably are harmless. The Prymid snails perty much stick to their food source (the clam).
I think the pictures will give us a better idea of what is going on here, or at least I hope they will.
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09-16-2006, 05:06 PM
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Shark
Join Date: Mar 2005
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the clam is completely dead. it died so rapidly. I have no Idea what happened.
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09-16-2006, 05:12 PM
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Shark
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Shelby Township, MI
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Is it possible that while moving him his foot pad was damaged? I tried to look online for cuases of sudden death in clams and this is what I found:
The byssus gland should be undamaged. You should not see any torn or loose tissue hanging from the bottom of the clam. Some byssal strands may be visible, but no solid tissue hanging loose. Byssal gland damage isn't always visible, so be warned. The clam may appear fine for a couple of weeks and then die suddenly for seemingly no reason.
Since all of your other corals seem fine I think it's something with the clam only and not your water.
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09-16-2006, 05:26 PM
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Shark
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: new york city
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I'm sorry your clam died.
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09-16-2006, 06:37 PM
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clown fishy
Join Date: Jul 2006
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sorry bout your clam
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09-16-2006, 08:46 PM
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Shark
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Shawnee, KS
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what do those snails look like?
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09-16-2006, 09:59 PM
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It can be rebuilt.
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extremely small white Cerith snails is what a pyramid snail will look like.
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09-17-2006, 12:14 PM
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Shark
Join Date: Mar 2005
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I have tiny white snails all over the place. I thought they were baby turbos but I could be wrong. i just don't want my othe clam to die. how do i get rid of them?
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09-17-2006, 01:33 PM
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Shark
Join Date: Mar 2004
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sorry about your clam, Jason.. I don't have one so can't offer any advice, just wanted to say sorry.
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09-17-2006, 02:50 PM
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It can be rebuilt.
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Jasontkd- if they are pyramid snails than they will only be located where the clam is. pyramid snails will not roam around, they like to stay next to their food source.
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