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11-19-2007, 02:05 AM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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What's the best way to do rock lifts?
My tank is on order so while I'm waiting I'm planning. I've been reading for a while and I see some of you use rock lifts instead of letting the rock rest on the bottom or on the sand bed. I want to make it easier for me to keep everything clean. I plan to use a shallow sand bed and would like to use lifts that can be hidden by the sand. Furthermore I see some of you drill and thread rock to make pillars; looks like a neat idea! May I have your recommendations on rock lifts and stacking please? Thanks!
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11-19-2007, 02:25 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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ive come up with a pretty solid way that not only doesnt restrict flow under your reef, it creates the most stable reef you can imagine. You can pretty muc throw your rock down on it and it isnt going anywhere. I cut teeth into the top of acrylci rods to grip your rock like glue, and no amount of sand shifting by any critter will ever compromise your reef.
I also actually make the rods tall in back and the entire reef is hollow. In my 2225 what looks like 150 pounds or more of rock is actually less than 75 lbs. If I cant see the rock it is just in the way of good flow through it.
Here is a picture of the teeth im talking abouot. I posted a DIY walkthrough at the top fo the DIY forum if youy want to check it out
Ill also add that while the way I do it may be better in both form and function than the standard PVC lifts, it also costs about 20-50 times as much depending on how much rod you use and if you do anything like the hollow reef program I state it gets kind of expensive. The important thing is that you DO lift it regardless of how. Your reef and rock will be happier for it. 
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11-19-2007, 07:06 AM
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The Muddy Mod
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Uxbridge, MA
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In my 2225 what looks like 150 pounds or more of rock is actually less than 75 lbs.
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That's not enough rock for a 2225 
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11-19-2007, 07:16 AM
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I've got the REEF rash!
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: New Jersey
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Originally Posted by Fly Guy
In my 2225 what looks like 150 pounds or more of rock is actually less than 75 lbs.
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You need A LOT more LR!
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11-19-2007, 07:26 AM
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Bad Fish
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Dalton Ga.
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Plastic coat hangers have worked out great for me building pillers and doing rock lifts
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11-19-2007, 09:22 AM
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Stinky Slimey FEESH
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: San Antonio
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Last time I changed out my DSB in the 135 gallon reef tank we made PVC stands. It was relatively easy and cheap. I found all the information and instructions here on the reef tank (smile).
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11-19-2007, 11:18 AM
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Enjoy it now
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Chattanooga, TN
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Bill, if you need some rock for that 2225G tank, you might look into contacting the local rock quarry LOL
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11-19-2007, 12:21 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Loverotties
You need A LOT more LR!
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Originally Posted by whatevva
That's not enough rock for a 2225 |
LOL.
hey. ive always said the "1.5-2 lbs" pounds per rock rule was silly and I cant believe people still parrot that crap back out over and over........... 
One bacteria colonized frag plug per gallon is PLENTY 
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Last edited by Fly Guy; 11-19-2007 at 12:28 PM.
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11-19-2007, 01:26 PM
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Enjoy it now
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Chattanooga, TN
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lol...he lives by the 1.5 - 2 pound per THOUSAND gallons rule  |
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11-19-2007, 09:03 PM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Thanks fly guy! I'll check out your diy; looks cool!
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11-19-2007, 09:09 PM
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Shark
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Marlboro, Ma.
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Originally Posted by david426
Thanks fly guy! I'll check out your diy; looks cool!
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Better yet have FlyGuy build one for you. I have had the PVC stands and then Bill built this for me.
Before sand
After sand with only the rods where the rock will be
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11-19-2007, 09:26 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: NW
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Originally Posted by mg
Better yet have FlyGuy build one for you. I have had the PVC stands and then Bill built this for me.
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SHHHHHHHHHH. 
I SO burned myself out on making those things. LOL
the last few people who have wanted them I have talked into making them themselves.....I even supplied the 1/2" acrylic needed to them so they wouldnt get raped buying 1/2" from mcmaster carr that was just going to get cut up into pieces and covered with sand andyway.
How is your tank doing Mike??? I havent seen any updated pictures.
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11-19-2007, 09:58 PM
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Shark
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Marlboro, Ma.
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Originally Posted by Fly Guy
SHHHHHHHHHH.
I SO burned myself out on making those things. LOL
the last few people who have wanted them I have talked into making them themselves.....I even supplied the 1/2" acrylic needed to them so they wouldnt get raped buying 1/2" from mcmaster carr that was just going to get cut up into pieces and covered with sand andyway.
How is your tank doing Mike??? I havent seen any updated pictures. |
Sorry didn't know you were all set with making them. The tank is doing great and settling in. I really have taken many pictures as I can't seem to get any good macros with the tank being 36" front to back. Not as easy as shooting the 125 was.
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11-19-2007, 09:59 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mg
Sorry didn't know you were all set with making them. The tank is doing great and settling in. I really have taken many pictures as I can't seem to get any good macros with the tank being 36" front to back. Not as easy as shooting the 125 was.
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Lets see them anyway at least a FTS
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11-19-2007, 11:03 PM
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Shark
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Originally Posted by Fly Guy
Lets see them anyway at least a FTS |
So as to not side track the thread, here ya go Bill.
http://thereeftank.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93642
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