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Old 04-08-2010, 06:38 AM   #1
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What is Bad for Mushroom Corals?


I just love my Mushroom Corals and have many Rocks with them on it.

I was wondering what was bad for them as I know they like low light and less Water Flow than other Corals.

Are any of the following bad for them:

Hermit Crabs - I just read in a book that said they are bad and can actually kill Frogspawn Corals since they "Walk all over Them." Is this also true for Mushroom Corals? I am concerned because I have Hermit Crabs in my Cleanup Crew.

Purple Sea Urchin - I have one in my tank. I bought it because it looked cool at my LFS. Now it is more of a pain than anything else. I have a 55 Gallon Aquarium but I try to keep my Corals on the left side and any time it wanders to the left I move it to the right of the Aquarium.

Liveaquaria.com says they are Reef Safe but I just don't Trust him. Am I being overly Concerned? It has a huge mouth and I feel like it will devour any Coral I have that it moves over like a Lan Mower. Otherwise he does not bother me.

Do they make very small "Dog Leases" for Urchins LOL.

Anything Else - Crabs, Shrimp, Fish, What else do I have to be Concerned about with my beloved Mushrooms.

I really want to protect them and not have them die. Sometimes they "Close Up" and get smaller. Then the next day they get very large. Why is that?

P.S. Can they Get any type of Diseases and Die. I really Hate Ich when it comes to my Fish as many have Died from it.

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Old 04-08-2010, 11:12 AM   #2
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I have found that they will re-size themselves depending on light, as well as just detach and find a place more to their suiting. They really are hearty, so I wouldn't waste much sleep worrying about them.

As far as hermits, they will walk on some coral, but in my experience they don't do it a ton (mine seem to find coral difficult to walk on and I only catch them on coral maybe once a week, and then it's just to get to the other side, they aren't hanging out). Of course every hermit will be different I can't recall ever seeing them on a mushroom, I only see them walking over zoa's.

Haven't kept an urchin, but if LA is saying they are reef safe, and you haven't seen any issues, I'd say he should be fine. Keeping him on one side of the tank is going to be hard long term.

As I said, they are hearty, as long as your critters are reef safe, you really shouldn't have an issue with them. The closing up and growing can be several things. Some shrooms are carnivores and will close up when anything touches them (they are trying to eat it), other times it's a light issue (they can control the amount of light they get with their size). Also any irritant will close them up, so if you have agressive corals they could be shedding sweepers, if those land on a coral they will close for a day or two, and look a little damaged. I have yet to see one die though.
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Old 04-09-2010, 08:57 AM   #3
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For most its not worth the worry but peppermint shrimp are known to snack on shrooms. I didn't care to much as I have a lot of them but when they started tasting my rics that was it! Be careful, though of course not every peppermint has this penchant for mushrooms.
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Old 04-09-2010, 12:37 PM   #4
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Thanks for the help. I am much relieved.

After talking about whats bad (But if anyone else wants chime in about what will hurt my Mushrooms please share). Lets be positive.

So What do Mushrooms like. What supplements do they like or do you guys use one them.

Are they corals that should be hand fed? Someone mentioned before when they close up they are try to eat.
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Old 04-09-2010, 12:49 PM   #5
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Are they corals that should be hand fed? Someone mentioned before when they close up they are try to eat.
They *could* be trying to eat. A more aggressive coral nearby stinging them would cause them to close up as well, hehe. I more meant not to stress out if they randomly close up. they will do that for all sorts of reasons. Some bad, but most not.

Far as feeding, some shrooms will not actively feed (meaning you won't really see it) and are basically filter feeders and getting a lot from photosynthesis. Others are more predatory and will actively eat meaty foods that land on them.

I read this in a forum and it seems to have held true for me. If you take a piece of airline tubing (or a feeding baster, or anything like that really), and gently brush the outside of their bell, if they curl up like a tulip, then it will take meaty foods directly, if not then it will passively feed. I have found this to work really well. If they do show to take meaty foods, then you can try to feed bits of shrimp or whatever. If you do you'll want to turn your flow way down so the food isn't blown away (but not all off, you want some flow to keep oxygen moving around).

Other than that most people just leave them be and look at them. They really are very simple to care for
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Old 04-09-2010, 01:39 PM   #6
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you shouldn't have any problems. mushrooms are one of the easiest to care for. I have purple, red, gree, and a pokla dotted one in my reef that has a peppermint, hermit crabs, snails...and they are doing great. happy fishing..
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Old 04-09-2010, 05:18 PM   #7
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flat worms,....make it hard for them to get light
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Old 04-09-2010, 06:13 PM   #8
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Mushrooms like a bit of nitrate. They normally grow in areas where nitrates are higher than "reef conditions."
Mine did best (great color and multiplied a lot) when my nitrates were 10-15. Now that my nitrates have been close to zero for the past half-year, the color faded slightly, and they stopped multiplying. My other "true" corals, however, are doing better.
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Old 10-20-2012, 11:54 AM   #9
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I have noticed that my Hairy Mushroom tends to close up if I spot feed him directly. What's interesting is that when he closes up for feeding he still stays pretty big. However when he closes up at night, he's really small. My assumption is when I spot feed him, he closes up to consume all the food he has. Now sure why but he's doing great.
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Old 10-20-2012, 04:09 PM   #10
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My mushrooms do great in my tank. I have quite a bit of flow(910gph in a BC29) and they seem to love it, they multiply like crazy. I went from a small rock with about 10 small shrooms a little under a year ago, now I have over 50 shrooms covering that rock and starting to cover another next to it.

My tank tends to run on the hot side 81-84 degrees, and not many corals like it. I have a hard time getting frags to grow. But all my shooms seem to find the warmth okay, as well as my leather.

I dont feed them anything, biweekly to monthly 15% water changes with RC

I also have a peppermint that I got to rid some of my aiptasia. Never harmed any of my mushrooms, or any other corals for that matter.
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Old 10-20-2012, 05:35 PM   #11
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in my experience, I have red and brown the brown already split once and the red are moving from rock to rock one thing they like is phytoplankton when I put t in the tank they get like a large cup they love it, never seen them take any meaty foods dough, light I have them both under the light and they don't seem to mind flow not to much they grow as the day goes by it gets to a point where I think they can't get any larger their cool and easy to take care of if you move them it only takes a while for them to get use it again they do get kind of pist when you move them so try not to they hate when my hermit walks all over them am going for recordias now very nice colors nitrates I have them preatty much at 0 they don't seem to mind.
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Old 10-20-2012, 06:21 PM   #12
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the only thing i have ever found that is bad for mushrooms is taking them out of the tank and leaving them on the driveway through the winter.

everything else they can live through.
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Apparently, they are about as indestructible as cockroaches and twinkies. There's a theory going around that they might be able to survive a nuclear blast.

And +1 to what others have said about them liking dirtier water. They cannot thrive in pure water like what the majority of SPS need, making it hard to keep them together.
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Apparently, they are about as indestructible as cockroaches and twinkies. There's a theory going around that they might be able to survive a nuclear blast.

And +1 to what others have said about them liking dirtier water. They cannot thrive in pure water like what the majority of SPS need, making it hard to keep them together.
LOL the cockroach and twinkie theory...
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