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Old 09-01-2009, 12:19 PM   #16
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Ca++ reactors are cheap to run for the amounts of Ca++ and alkalinity not to mention coral skeletal traces they deliver; it's the initial buy-in that kills ya.
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Old 09-01-2009, 12:29 PM   #17
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My turn to threadjack I think...although it is mostly on subject....

Is it manly just SPS that are Calcium intensive? I have yet to see my calcium move from 460 and I have had a few (2-3) baseball to softball sized LPS for at least a month or so (branching hammer, wall frogspawn, a mushroom rock that probably doesn't use calcium, and bubble coral that was a recent addition).

It is still lightly stocked, and a 180g, but I would think the calcium would move a little if they were using it, right?

Edit: I ask because I have a CA reactor collecting dust in my basement. Didn't seem necessary, but it was a part of the tank "package" so I just put it in storage for now.
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Old 09-01-2009, 12:55 PM   #18
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My turn to threadjack I think...although it is mostly on subject....

Is it manly just SPS that are Calcium intensive? I have yet to see my calcium move from 460 and I have had a few (2-3) baseball to softball sized LPS for at least a month or so (branching hammer, wall frogspawn, a mushroom rock that probably doesn't use calcium, and bubble coral that was a recent addition).

It is still lightly stocked, and a 180g, but I would think the calcium would move a little if they were using it, right?

Edit: I ask because I have a CA reactor collecting dust in my basement. Didn't seem necessary, but it was a part of the tank "package" so I just put it in storage for now.
I personally don’t think so LPS grows much quicker then SPS and grows more skeleton so one would think LPS would use more Ca and Alk. It’s just the SPS guys tend to categorize themselves as advance and CA is seen as an advance piece of equipment to run.
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Old 09-01-2009, 02:01 PM   #19
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...Is it manly just SPS that are Calcium intensive?
Tridacnid clams, Stony fast-growing reeftop corals(Acroporids, Pocilliporids, Montis, etc), some spp. of Corallinaceae, some spp. of massives (Favids, Porites, etc). Most of the corals that use a lot of calcium and alkalinity are the true reef builders and are referred to as hermatypic corals. In the strictest sense, this is not just stony corals, as many octocorals also produce so many spicules of such large mass in their soft tissue that they contribute to the neobiogenesis of reef-building as their soft tissues decompose when they die. Tridacnid clams, as well as shelled mollusks in general (like snails), although not corals, may be considered hermatypic in that their shells contribute to the geological mass of the reef as other hermatypic organisms build on their bioclasts when the mollusk dies. Even though they do not comprise a substantial population in most aquaria, pelagic plankton that have shells or tests (foraminifarians, coccolithophorids, and non-calcareous tests of diatoms) make up much of the calcareous oozes found on the bottom of some environments along with fish bones and teeth. I imagine that spicules make up some of this as well. These spiculese, along with the valves of mollusks, snail shells, some small percentage as fish bone or tooth, along with stony coral skeleton, make up the majority of calcium use in a system. I might point out that significant calcium and alk use can go towards making crustose Corallinaceae deposits and to make up the biomass of some spp. of macroalgae (esp. Halimeda spp.). For this to become a problem, you would have to have a large popultion of such creaturese, and that's when the Ca reactor makes it easy to do regular supplementation of calcium and alkalinity.

Regardless as to whether or not these organisms build reefs, they DO use calcium and alkalinity in your system, as do the bacteria in your rock and sand. HTH.
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Old 09-01-2009, 02:05 PM   #20
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If i plan on having a mixed reef w/ a few sps in my 125g build, would you seriously recommend a calcium reactor for this project? someone on a local reef board is selling his w/ the bottle and everything for $250...

I didn't consider it at the time because i know nothing of how to hook up a calcium reactor to the system... any walkthroughs there?
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For $250 you could always resale it if you decide you dont want it. Its a great deal I would pick it up.
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At this point in your system, I wouldnt bother with a calcium reactor. Even if it's a good deal, there are potential risks with incorporating it and I would wait until demand of your tank's inhabitants required it (meaning 2 part dosing becomes a burden or cost prohibitive). There will be other deals down the road; don't jump in just because the price is right.
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At this point in your system, I wouldnt bother with a calcium reactor. Even if it's a good deal, there are potential risks with incorporating it and I would wait until demand of your tank's inhabitants required it (meaning 2 part dosing becomes a burden or cost prohibitive). There will be other deals down the road; don't jump in just because the price is right.
thanks for the advice. I see all this equipment out that is more expensive for the intial purchase, but if it saves me in the long run I'm all for it.
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