Sponsor Our Community
Go Back   The Reef Tank > Reef Discussion Forums > General Reef Discussion
Have a question? It's Free!

General Reef Discussion In this forum we discuss issues related to keeping marine and reef aquariums in a friendly flame-free environment.


Registered Members don't see these ads. Register now it's free!

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-25-2009, 11:30 AM   #1
smartiranx
Plankton
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 12

Water Circulation


I have a Juwel 260 marine tank(corals plus livestock). Current circulation is provided by maxi-jet mp 600, tetratec cannister filter and built-in juwel filter, i am lookin to add a koralia 2 pump - any thoughts please !!!!!!!!!!
Registered Members don't see these ads. Register now it's free!
smartiranx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2009, 04:31 PM   #2
scoop
Reef Nut
 
scoop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Illinois
Posts: 1,217
Reviews: 1
Welcome to TRT! I'm not familiar w/ the Juwel tank, how large is it (in gallons)? How long has it been set up? What types of corals do you have? It doesn't sound like you have very much circulation right now, but this info will help us help you.
__________________
Don 75 gl bb reef w/ 30 gl sump, Vertex IN 100, Tek 6 x 54 T5's - 10gl nano w/ 2 x 20 T5's
One out of four people in this country is mentally imbalanced. Think of your three closest friends - if they seem okay, then you're the one. Ann Landers
scoop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2009, 07:11 PM   #3
fihsboy
Tarpon
 
fihsboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Orange Park Florida!
Posts: 1,820
Reviews: 48
Unless your tank is about 10 gallons......thats not enough. The more the merrier.
fihsboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2009, 07:16 PM   #4
smartiranx
Plankton
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 12

Circulation


tank is 57g bow front, housing large juwel filter, external tetratec 1200 cannister filter, maxi jet 600.

Tank has been going for 16mths, stock of 9 fish and assorte soft coral
smartiranx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2009, 07:18 PM   #5
fihsboy
Tarpon
 
fihsboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Orange Park Florida!
Posts: 1,820
Reviews: 48
two koralia 2's and you would be in business.
fihsboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2009, 07:19 PM   #6
fihsboy
Tarpon
 
fihsboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Orange Park Florida!
Posts: 1,820
Reviews: 48
Are you running a skimmer? Thats another must. What kind of fish?
fihsboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2009, 07:29 PM   #7
smartiranx
Plankton
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 12
Cool

Water circulation


yellow tang x1
pink tailed trigger fish x 1
clownfish x 2
2 x wrasse
2 x cromis
1 x blue reef fish
2 x boxer shrimp
1 peppermint shrimp
1 blood shrimp

and i am running a hang over the side protein skimmer
smartiranx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2009, 07:42 PM   #8
smartiranx
Plankton
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 12
Exclamation

will the addition of more circulation/water flow, help with cleaning sand substrate
smartiranx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2009, 07:58 PM   #9
fihsboy
Tarpon
 
fihsboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Orange Park Florida!
Posts: 1,820
Reviews: 48
yes, it will help keep particles suspended long enough to get them through your filter. It will also help your nitrates and phosphates, which with your bioload im sure you have. Do you have a lot of algae? If you can afford a MP40.......its awesome. I would highly recommend it over any other powerhead. But if your on a budget....two koralia 2's will be more than enough.
fihsboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2009, 08:25 PM   #10
Phishnoob
Oh no...not again!!!
 
Phishnoob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 6,063
Images: 419
Yep I think you need flow in addition to circulation. I was worried about too big of a return pump for my sump on our 75g build then realized that flow was just to support what the skimmer can do.

We are going to put a couple of Tunze's (probably the same as Koralia's functionally but really fancy) in there to really keep things flowing and junk suspended.

You can get really cluttery with a bunch of tiny powerheads or something so just get the Korallia everyone advises and go to the larger side. If there is too much flow you can always bank it against the front first or something.
__________________
Perry


Fellow of RSTK (Royal Society of Thread Killers)
Phishnoob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2009, 03:32 AM   #11
smartiranx
Plankton
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 12
Post

thanks for the advice , I have been struggling for months, having being told by local stockists i had enough flow/circulation. This after telling them was plagued first with cyano, then hairy green algae.

I take it circulation/flow will help with nitrates????
smartiranx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2009, 04:03 AM   #12
Phishnoob
Oh no...not again!!!
 
Phishnoob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 6,063
Images: 419
Not really the big factor. I have been there and battled cyano, and my causes were overfeeding and poor water quality.

As soon as I switched to RO/DI water instead of tap (or now I use distilled from the supermarket for my nano, but will be getting a new unit) my problems with that were gone.

I feed now just every other day despite how hungry the fish look as well.

If you have any kind of filter media that has stored up phosphates that is what feeds that nuisance algae.
__________________
Perry


Fellow of RSTK (Royal Society of Thread Killers)
Phishnoob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2009, 11:43 AM   #13
smartiranx
Plankton
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 12
Thanks - your advice has been most helpful
smartiranx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2009, 07:22 PM   #14
fihsboy
Tarpon
 
fihsboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Orange Park Florida!
Posts: 1,820
Reviews: 48
Also the added flow will help your corals......fish...and rid problem algae as well as cyno. The better the flow the less deitritus that settles......and that makes for an all around cleaner tank. I like to see my water circulating.....My fish will deposit wastes(poop) and it stays suspended for a good 2-3 minutes.....most of the time it gets pulled out by my filtration....but sometimes corals get a hold of it....and sometimes it goes into the rocks. but that will help your whole system health.
fihsboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2009, 07:25 PM   #15
fox2589
Big Fishy
 
fox2589's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Indiana
Posts: 992
Images: 4
i have a 20 gallon with about 1600 gph flying around it..to me the more flow the better..-drew
fox2589 is offline   Reply With Quote
Comparison Shopping
Aquarium Systems Instant Ocean pH Test Kit

As low as $4

at 3 sellers

Aquarium Pharmaceuticals Aquarian Marine Flake Fish Food 1.61oz

As low as $3

at 9 sellers

Members with more than 50 posts don't see this bar

Mag-Float 130A Magnet Cleaner Acrylic - Medium 130 Gal

As low as $11

at 16 sellers

Tom Aquatics Activated Carbon Pad for Rapids Pro Series PS3 & PS4 - 2 Pack

As low as $6

at 9 sellers

Members with more than 50 posts don't see this bar

Two Spot Goby

As low as $14

at 4 sellers

Aquarium Pharmaceuticals Super Activated Carbon 80oz

As low as $23

at 10 sellers

Members with more than 50 posts don't see this bar

Red Sea CO2 System 500 Standard Bottles - Refillable

As low as $156

at 10 sellers

48 Inch T12 Colormax 40W by Coralife

As low as $8

at 5 sellers

Members with more than 50 posts don't see this bar

Aqua Logic Trimline Cyclone 1/4 HP Chiller

As low as $910

at 4 sellers

Hydor Koralia Nano Mini PumpPowerhead 240gph

As low as $19

at 17 sellers

Members with more than 50 posts don't see this bar

Octopus 160 Extreme Protein Skimmer

As low as $270

at 7 sellers

Blue Dot Grouper

As low as $40

at 7 sellers

Members with more than 50 posts don't see this bar

48 inch Current USA Nova Extreme 2x54 watt T5 HO 10K460nm

As low as $118

at 8 sellers

Eheim Coarse Filter Pad for 2213 Canister Filter 2 pcs

As low as $6

at 9 sellers

Members with more than 50 posts don't see this bar

Reply

Tags
water circulation
 
Quick Reply
Reply:
Image Verification
Please enter the six letters or digits that appear in the image opposite.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Sitemap:1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196
Sponsor Our Community

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:44 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Our lawyer tells us that, by pressing the "New Thread" or "New Reply" button, you acknowledge that the opinions and information expressed in your article are yours alone and not those of thereeftank.com, dba The Reef Tank. Further, you agree to indemnify The Reef Tank, its moderators, administrators and agents from any and all liability which may arise as a result of your article. (C)opyright 2006 TheReefTank.com
 
close
Sign up for free and join one of the largest communities of saltwater aquarists!
Our members will be glad to help you with anything you need!

Join over 30,000 TRT members!

Email

Email Confirm Email
Username
Password Confirm Password

I agree to the website rules