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Old 12-07-2005, 05:56 PM   #1
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Want MH upgrade but need help!!!


Wow there are so many possibilities. This one seems to be at about the right price point for me. If anyone has knowledge of these or something comparable I sure would appreciate hearing from you.
http://www.aquauniverse.com/componen...hop/Itemid,31/

Right now I have basically softies and a few LPS corals but wish to get into some clams so MH is necessary. 46G bowfront now with Coralife 192w CF.
I plan on hanging from ceiling.
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Old 12-07-2005, 10:39 PM   #2
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What are the dimensions...if its 24"+ deep you might consider a 400w MH to get down to those clams.

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Old 12-07-2005, 11:02 PM   #3
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That won't work if you have a standard 46g bow, the center brace blocks too much light.
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Old 12-07-2005, 11:09 PM   #4
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That won't work if you have a standard 46g bow, the center brace blocks too much light.

Then would 2 250 work or would that be to much? Been looking at bowfront tank my self.
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Old 12-07-2005, 11:30 PM   #5
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2x250 is fine. I have 2x150.
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Old 12-07-2005, 11:39 PM   #6
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2-250s on a 49g tank! I think that's too much. 10.2W per. gal.
Here's a quick guide www.marineandreef.com/Info/lightingchart_hood.html
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Old 12-08-2005, 12:18 AM   #7
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I say 2 150s/175s; if you go with higher than 10kK, 250s.
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Old 12-08-2005, 11:09 PM   #8
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2-250s on a 49g tank! I think that's too much. 10.2W per. gal.
Here's a quick guide www.marineandreef.com/Info/lightingchart_hood.html
I know theres alot more factors than just watts per gallon, but ive got a total of 280 in my 29 gallon
1x150 mh and 2x65 pc
theres roughly 26 gallons in the tank with the live rock and sand
thats 10.7 watts per gallon and everythings doing great.
My sps are growing at a phenominal rate and so are my leathers and lps
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Old 12-08-2005, 11:29 PM   #9
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That's not 280w of MH.
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Old 12-09-2005, 06:08 AM   #10
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I disagree with that chart, 1X65W PC for a 20 gallon tank with sps, sounds like the jive my lfs tried to pass.

I've got a 175W MH on a 10 gallon!
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Old 12-09-2005, 08:48 AM   #11
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I disagree with that chart, 1X65W PC for a 20 gallon tank with sps, sounds like the jive my lfs tried to pass.

I've got a 175W MH on a 10 gallon!
Good thing it's not a 120g at that rate you would be at 2100W! You could save money that way though, you would'nt have to turn the stove on to boil an egg, just through it in the tank.
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Old 12-09-2005, 10:13 AM   #12
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Well, let's look at it this way. I've got an Acropora and a clam next to each other, within 4" of the surface, with a 250W DE 10000K within 6" of the water surface. They are doing fine, and have been for almost two years. It wouldn't matter if the tank under them was a 10 or a 1000, they'd get the same amount of irradiance. Heat would be an issue, but not light intensity.

A general rule of thumb for a metal halide is it will cover a 2'X2' area. The decision on how many lights to use should take that into consideration. Now whether you use a 70W MH or a 1000W MH should hinge on how deep of a tank you have, and how much difference you can accept between the surface irradiance and the bottom irradiance.
With a 3' tank, one metal halide fixture will not cover the surface with equal intensity. I found that out with a 70 and one 250W fixture. Acro's would only grow directly under the bulb, outside of that, only softies did very well.
On a 5' tank I have now, I used 3 lights, with the overlap of the bulbs falling over where the braces are on the tank, so the light intensity is more or less even across the tank. One thing I can say about the 10 gallon with the 175, the light levels on the top and the bottom of the tank are pretty close to the same!
Another consideration is the distance of the light from the surface of the water. Raising the light will help cover a larger area and keep some of the heat off the water, but it will drastically reduce the irradiance going into the water. I've got a 175 10000K over a 20 gallon cube, 15" above the surface, and it is sufficient for sps only at the very surface of the water.
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Old 12-09-2005, 02:35 PM   #13
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