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Old 04-12-2012, 01:12 PM   #1
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trying to make mushrooms and leather corals grow.


hey all, I'm trying to make my mushrooms, ricordea, and leather corals grow and reproduce but i dont know what type of food and chemicals i should use. they mushrooms were reproducing and then they stopped. i havent done anything differnt to tank so dont know why the stopped. i have a 28 gallon tank and i dont put any chemicals in it like calcium, or iodide. everytime i attempt to put anything in it the fish act weird and i lose a piece of coral. can someone give my some advice as to which brand and what kind of nutrients to give them? thanks.
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Old 04-12-2012, 01:45 PM   #2
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add a healthy dose of patience

These corals really do not need any additional help... in fact most corals do not need any help. For as long as you keep your lighting well maintained, feed the fish, do an adequate water change regularly, and provide a stable environment, these coral will be fine.

For example my tank went from this:
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to this:
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in about 5-6 months without any additional help. Keep it simple and success follows.

You always have to remember that most "nutrients" feed algae and bacteria first.
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My shrooms and leathers grow and reproduce but it took time and no additional dosing or anything
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Old 04-13-2012, 02:06 AM   #4
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should i give them food, i currently give them marine snow, microvert, cyclop-eeze and zooplex. should i give them this or other types of food? and should i even use the iodide and calcium things?
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Hummm, I would not even add what you are adding.

MarineSnow is just bottled detritus, Micro-Vert is bottled detritus with extra phosphates, Cyclops-eeze and zooplex are basically the same thing.

The corals you have listed are basically photosynthetic. The acquire most of their needs via the light. What you are feeding can be detrimental to the tank as it is only nutrient loading the system. It is kinda like dumping a bucket of food on you plate when you are already full... it does not work. More is not always better. When it comes to coral growth, more does not work at all. All you need to do is address the limiting nutrient(s) and for soft corals, there rarely exists a limiting factor unless the system is ULN like my SPS system.

If you want to have the best health, control the nutrient input and perform regular water changes. It is that simple.
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cool thx. and speaking of reproducing i just found something cool. this morning i glanced at my tank to see if everything's cool, because last night the anemone looked shriveled and going thru its waste process and i saw too rose anemones, had to take a double take, turns out my rose nem split into another one half its size lol. i cant believe it, i just brought that thing home a week go, and i picked it out of a tank full of them. wow what luck? do they normally start splitting like crazy?
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Rose Bubble Tips?

RBTA will spit when stressed and it is not uncommon for them to split entering into a new tank (transferring is stressful). Some nems just constantly split too. My friend has about 12-14 3"-8" nems in a 140g and they split constantly. It is just the way of some nems.
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should i give them food, i currently give them marine snow, microvert, cyclop-eeze and zooplex. should i give them this or other types of food? and should i even use the iodide and calcium things?
You should feed them as they are not totally photosynthetic.
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This excerpt was taken from this article; http://www.reefaquariuminfo.com/The-...om-Corals.html
"Mushroom corals are one of the easiest corals to keep in the reef aquarium and have always been a staple in the beginning hobbyist’s aquarium. These corals have soft bodies and come in every color and size imaginable, almost.

Mushroom corals do not like high intensity lights and, thus, if you’re using metal halides, it is important to keep the mushrooms near the bottom of the tank. Most mushroom corals prefer low flow conditions, although some will tolerate a slightly moderate flow. These corals hold onto rocks using their feet and can move if they decide they would like a better place in your aquarium. They do not produce a calcareous skeleton, so a steady supply of calcium is not important. Dosing your tank with essential elements like Iodine, Strontium and Molybdenum are advised.

Mushrooms use zooxanthellae for photosynthesis, but they will take solid food if it is present in the water. In fact, some are ravenous eaters."
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MrPlum, gotta disagree (on some points)

Many mushrooms actually prefer high intensity lighting as I was also not only able to keep Ricordias under 400w MH (as well as lower wattage MH in shallower tanks), but they were extremely healthy to boot. Got some of the best growth out of them like that. Not all mushroom are low light and many mushrooms are native to shallow lagoons that have extremely high (sunlight) light intensity. Unfortunately, not all mushrooms are from the shallow lagoons and there are deeper/shady mushrooms as well that will fade away under intense light. Thus it is better to start them low and then raise the intensity.

As far as feeding, mushrooms do like euthrophic (nutrient rich) tanks... and for the most part, that is easy since keeping even a few fish and feeding them will lead to eutrophication of a system. It is actually more work to keep a system from being eutrophic and that is why there are those people with light bioloads, giant skimmers, mega water changes, and sometimes dose vodka (like me). Mushrooms will trive and split in a tank that only is fed to feed the fish. Additional food is not needed. Mushrooms will make 95-99% of their energy from photosynthesis and left over fish-food, fish poo, and the occasional pod is more than enough without additional nutrient dosing.

If you want to feed the filter-feeders and shrooms every so often, just stir up some of the detritus in the sand. It is home-grown marine snow!
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