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06-07-2006, 11:14 PM
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Wow, when did this turn into a thoretical physics thread?
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Originally Posted by three90s&125sump
OK anyone else have any "guesses" to the answer of my question? When I tell you guys what it is you will wonder why you never guessed it.
I thought for sure someone would have gotten it from my first (or second) hint. One more hint... This is the most powerful unyeilding force known to man. It is so powerful that even the smallest amount of it bends space and with large amounts of it time will bend or even break.
Now, if you guys don't get it from that hint you will not get it and there will be no free frags ('cept Butches). 
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Strong nuclear is the strongest force in the universe. Gravity is the weakest.
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06-07-2006, 11:17 PM
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I like this, I think I understand all this, I know I do, I just have to sort it out in my head and I will have it. Ok what was the topic again.
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06-07-2006, 11:24 PM
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Ok what was the topic again.
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Superluminal particles and their negative effect on detritus. 
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06-07-2006, 11:34 PM
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Superluminal particles and their negative effect on detritus. 
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THAT IS IT!!!
Detritus is the fastest "thing" in the universe. no matter how fast you siphon it up when you turn your head around there is more there already. i mean this stuff is super quick.
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06-07-2006, 11:46 PM
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That great Geoff, I need to add that to my Sig.
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06-08-2006, 01:39 AM
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Wow, when did this turn into a thoretical physics thread?
Strong nuclear is the strongest force in the universe. Gravity is the weakest.
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I don't beleive I said it was the strongest force, Vince. It is how ever the most powerful.
The strong nuclear force (also referred to as the strong force) is one of the four basic forces in nature (the others being gravity, the electromagnetic force, and the weak nuclear force). As its name implies, it is the strongest of the four. But, it also has the shortest range, meaning that particles must be extremely close before its effects are felt. Its main job is to hold together the the subatomic particles of the nucleus (protons, which carry a positive charge, and neutrons, which carry no charge. These particles are collectively called nucleons). As most people learn in their science education, like charges repel (+ +, or - -), and unlike charges attract (+ -). (I copied and pasted that)
The thing about gravity is that its effects can be felt every where. The smallest particle (with mass) can be detected across the gallaxy. With the proper equipment & no interferance, but thats the problem anything sensative enough to pick up gravity from accross the universe will in evitable have interferance from everywhere else.
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06-08-2006, 02:43 AM
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Gravity is the same as light; every unit of distance it decays 1/4 of it's original strength (inverse square); and it also can only be felt at the speed of light according to special and general relativity. Untill we find the holy grail of gravity, the graviton...
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06-08-2006, 04:52 AM
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Gravity is the same as light; every unit of distance it decays 1/4 of it's original strength (inverse square); and it also can only be felt at the speed of light according to special and general relativity. Untill we find the holy grail of gravity, the graviton...
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It does decay at a specific rate but it never decays to nil. (I think) you are incorrect about it only being felt at the speed of light.
If an object that is 1 light year away changes direction (for what ever reason), the effect of that objects gravitational change will be noticable instantly, however, you will not be able to "see" the change for 1 year.
Here is a link you might want to read. It is kinda thick but, if you find something in there (or any where) that contradicts what I am saying please post it here.
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06-08-2006, 05:04 AM
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Ps.
I thought I had made an ass out of myself until I found that article.
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06-08-2006, 05:40 AM
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My thinking is this: The Earth is orbiting the Sun at about 67K MPH and the sun is orbiting the center of the gallaxy at about 550K MPH and the gallaxy is moving (orbiting something I am sure) at about 660K MPH  . At some point a (any one of billions) body would be directly in the path of a larger (higher gravity) object. So, my conclusion would be that if there was any aburration to gravity that the orbits of the (celestial) bodies would be disrupted and the balance of velocity (mass) and gravity would break down causing orbits to be impossible. 
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06-08-2006, 05:46 AM
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Her is a good illustration of what I am saying. Edit: if gravity had a speed.

| The drawings show waves produced at regular time intervals by an object moving through a fluid. When the object speed is less than the wave speed (top), the waves run out ahead. When the object speed equals the wave speed (middle), the waves pile up right in front of the object. When the object speed is greater than the wave speed (bottom), the waves form a wake.
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06-08-2006, 05:49 AM
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The assumption that gravity travels at the speed of light is the basis of general relativity.
Here is one of the latest observations.
http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...ed_030107.html
I have to read through a few issues of Scientific American; I remember a few more really good gravity/cosmology articles.
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06-08-2006, 06:00 AM
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Hmmm,
Editor's Note: This finding has come under criticism since publication of this story. click here
Also, Vince with in your article:
"We now know that the speed of gravity is probably equal to the speed of light," Fomalont said. "And we can confidently exclude any speed for gravity that is over twice that of light."
There is alot of fudge in there.
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06-08-2006, 06:01 AM
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Disclaimer: I am not nor do I claim to be a physisist.
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