The Rebuild Begins!!! - Page 24

three90s&125sump · 05-30-2006, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff

. the problem being is that i only have about a 2' cube of space to work in.

G~

If you have a specific amount of flow (EI: 400GPH) then you would have to check out the flow characteristics of the given space you have. Longer, wider, deeper or even make a folded space if possible, but with a given amount of flow (your return pump) deeper, wider and longer are really what will ultimatly matter.

For example if you have 400GPH of flow and a settling tank that is 4" long, 36" wide and 2 inches deep almost nothing will settle in there because of the dead spots on either side of it and the flow that the center will be getting. The particles would just flow right through it. Length, width and depth really matter.

Think of it like your skimmer base and micro bubbles escaping from it. The force of gravity has to be stronger than the flow of the water.

Sorry, again, for the obvious statments. I am trying to cut down on them. I used to say 2 packs a day now I am down to about 1/2 a pack of them per day.

Geoff · 05-30-2006, 09:17 PM

glad to hear you are trimming down!!

i do not think you statement is true. water will not channel like that. think about how far a PH will push in the water. it may push a couple of feet then it is pretty much non-existant. plus the spread pattern of the inlet will help push detritus out to the sides where it will start to collect.

some fun for both us to figure out.

G~

PowerManJ316 · 05-30-2006, 11:04 PM

Did you consider adding a baffle somewhere between the inlet and outlet? This could effectively increase the distance the water travels between the inlet and outlet and give more time for detritus to settle out. I am not sure of your design, but I thought I would throw the idea out there.

tdwyatt · 05-31-2006, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by PowerManJ316

Did you consider adding a baffle somewhere between the inlet and outlet? ...

...a piece of eggcrate in horizontal position, outlet (outgoing water) above, inlet (incoming water) below.

three90s&125sump · 05-31-2006, 12:58 AM

Egg-cellent idea Tom.

That would definatly help out with the settling.

But seriously. Powerman's idea is right on with what I am saying and that chart link you sent us Geoff agrees to a T with what I am saying. I think we are saying the same thing but we are just not making the connection. If I had more time to myself I would build me a settling tank but, as it is I will have to leave the new designs up to Geoff.

Does anyone know what the fastest "thing" is? I know somebody knows the answer to this. Who ever gets this right will be the second (only to Butch) to get a frag of my ultra yellow candy coral.

Geoff · 05-31-2006, 10:17 AM

adding that flow barrier with the eggcrate would be an eggs-celent idea.

G~

tdwyatt · 06-02-2006, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by three90s&125sump

...Does anyone know what the fastest "thing" is? I know somebody knows the answer to this. Who ever gets this right will be the second (only to Butch) to get a frag of my ultra yellow candy coral.

Sorry, I am not understanding the question here, fastest WHAT thing???

three90s&125sump · 06-02-2006, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by tdwyatt

Sorry, I am not understanding the question here, fastest WHAT thing???

Ha, Ha,

It is totally off topic (sorry doug).

The fastest "thing" in the universe.

Sorry, I guess, now, I see it was a vague question.

whatevva · 06-02-2006, 06:26 AM

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Who ever gets this right will be the second (only to Butch) to get a frag of my ultra yellow candy coral.

Hey Jason, I had forgotten all about that! Soooooo....when's it gonna happen?

To answer your question, I think light is probably the fastest thing we know of. 186,300 miles per second

BGJ223 · 06-02-2006, 12:11 PM

We need some more updates Geoff. I have been following this thread pretty religiously. You are giving me alot of ideas for my tank when I redo it. So keep the pics and updates going.

I really like the settling tank, but I am not sure how I could put that under my stand along with everything else.

three90s&125sump · 06-02-2006, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by whatevva

Hey Jason, I had forgotten all about that! Soooooo....when's it gonna happen?

To answer your question, I think light is probably the fastest thing we know of. 186,300 miles per second

It will be some time from now, maybe in a year. The sooner I get it in my big tank the sooner it will be.

But, you don't get 2 frags. Lights speed is actually 186,272MPS or 11,176,320MPM or 670,579,200MPH and the term "light year" being the measure of 5,862,203,366,400 miles. And, the distance light has traveled since the last big bang that our matter was involved in is between 7,034,640,396,800,000,000,000 and 8,207,084,129,600,000,000,000 miles (yes, that is between 7 and 8 sextillion miles). So, it is possible with powerful enough telescopes to peer into the past 12 billion years (or more if my multiverse theory is correct). And I truly believe that one day we will come to fully understand what has happened and what will happen but it is not the correct answer to my question. Light is not the fastest thing in the universe. Anyone else want to venture a guess?

PowerManJ316 · 06-03-2006, 01:19 AM

HAHA, I know it. It is an electron. Scientists at least predict that electrons can travel faster than the speed of light in certain mediums...theoretically at least.

three90s&125sump · 06-03-2006, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by PowerManJ316

HAHA, I know it. It is an electron. Scientists at least predict that electrons can travel faster than the speed of light in certain mediums...theoretically at least.

Nope, (I can see how they could) and I don't have a rant about electrons.

Anyone else?

three90s&125sump · 06-03-2006, 04:24 AM

OK, maybe I do.

It has a mass of 9*10^-31 kg or 1 two thousandth of the mass of a proton (or one million millionth of the mass of a speck of dust).

Electron tracks

When the electron is shot out of the muzzle of an electron gun it emerges with a particular velocity and travels along a well defined trajectory. The electron carries a precise charge of 1.6*10^-19 coulombs. By careful design, an electron gun can make the electrons spin - like the rifling inside the barrel of a gun can make bullets spin.
All attempts to measure the radius of the electron have failed! All we know is that the radius is less than 10^-18 m; that is, its radius is one hundred million times smaller than that of the atom. All the known properties of the electron are consistent with the assumption that its radius is zero. As far as we know, the electron has no structure.
What is puzzling is how a particle can have no size and no structure and yet can have a definite mass and behave as though it is spinning? We do not know the answers to these questions but scientists are working on experiments to find out.
The electron as a wave

Confine an electron, or constrict its freedom of movement and the bullet looks like a wave. Think of an atom - say hydrogen. The electron orbits the nucleus; in the case of hydrogen the nucleus is a single proton. Instead of a neat circular orbit the electron flies around the proton appearing at all points almost simultaneously. It behaves like a wave. If we bring two atoms close together their electron clouds may merge. If the electron clouds merge we get a molecule. In metals the electron waves spread out over the whole volume of the material.

LOL, I copied and pasted that.

tdwyatt · 06-03-2006, 01:27 PM

I thought gossip was the fastest thing in the universe, because nothing travels faster than gossip...

OK, maybe bad news, but I'm sticking with Gossip!