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Old 11-18-2000, 10:29 AM   #1
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Tang = Ich???


I was wondering if everything you here about tangs getting Ich is true? It seems its gauranteed that if you have a tang it gets Ich according to some posts.I would like to get one but this holds me back.Also how would you treat it in a tank with L.R. and inverts?thanks.
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Old 11-18-2000, 09:12 PM   #2
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Thank you for the replies. The tank I had in mind was a 60 .It has macro up the wazoo and some hair also. Sounds like this tank may be alittle small .Any other suggestions for a fish that will control this algae for me? Thanks again.
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Old 11-18-2000, 09:58 PM   #3
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DaleD, a fellow reefer, has observed the bi-colour blenny to be good at removing unwanted hair alga, both at work and in his own reef, though I can't comment on the macro alga/algae with these guys.

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Old 11-19-2000, 01:25 AM   #4
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Not every tang gets ich and of those that do it is often transitory, being related to stress of a new environment. However, the phrase "ich magnet" applied to Tangs is certainly true. They seem vulnerable to ich more than other fish whether through sensitivity to bad water conditions, diet or tank size or a combination of all of the above.

I placed a very small yellow tang, less than 2" long, in my 55 to control a horribly invasive macro algae. Normally, I would not have placed a tang in a 55 as I feel that they need more swimming room to avoid stress and remain healthy. It worked in this instance because he was so small, he had plenty of greens to eat and I have supplemented his diet with nori, spirulina and Selcon. He's never had an outbreak of ich but now that he has purged my tank of the dreaded "green menace" and has grown considerably, I'm planning on trapping him and putting him in a 240 gallon tank where he will have mega swimming room.

Prevention is the key to avoiding ich; aggresive *treatment* is not much of an option in a reef tank. There are some products out there that people have had success with treating in-tank like Ruby Kick-Ich or feeding garlic (even garlic seems to work best as part of a regular feeding routine for prevention) but copper and other such treatments cannot be used in-tank, they are death to inverts.

Prevention then would be: 1) Tanks of preferably 100 gallons or more. 2) Pick a healthy specimen to start with 3)Excellent water parameters 4) Compatible tankmates to reduce stress 5) diet consisting mainly of different macro algae products supplemented with Selcon or other fatty-amino acid supplement.

Normally, I would suggest a quarantine tank for incoming fish; however in the case of tangs and since Q-tanks are usually 20 gallons or under, I feel they are counterproductive.

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Old 11-19-2000, 01:32 AM   #5
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I absolutely echo Alice's comments. Tangs seem very prone to ich, and for that reason, I've never kept one. However, in discussions with other reefers/aquarists, and in my experience at work, I've seen many many tangs contract ich.

We have found freshwater dips to be effective in combatting ich, of course as always with good diet, good water quality and as little stress as possible.

We also feed a garlic elixer/vitamin supplement in our food, and have had good results with that.

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Old 11-22-2000, 11:01 PM   #6
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The reputation that tangs have as ich magnets is most likely related to the fact that they require larger tanks than most are willing to provide for them.

If given the proper environment, the tang can be a relatively hardy fish. With that said, introducing a tang into a new tank can lead to a transient outbreak of ich. I've found that garlic/selcon soaked food is enought to get the fish through the acclimation period and allow the fish to fight the organism with it's own immune system down the road.

Some tangs are more susceptible than others, ie need bigger tanks with less aggressive tankmates. The regal tang comes to mind.

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Old 11-24-2000, 09:56 PM   #7
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What kind of garlic do you use. I have heard that you can use Mc Cormicks garlic juice or Kyolic Garlic juice.Is one better than the other?
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