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Old 09-16-2002, 11:15 PM   #1
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sump size? 200 G


Well all, here's the first of many questions,,,,, prepping the 200g Oceanic for the move to the basement, sealed the inside of the stand, plan on using either the ol' Oceanic(approx 40g) wet/dry system, tank only ,"gutted" the wet/dry stuff out of it, also have a 55g tank i can use for a sump, the 40g will fit in the stand, have not tried the 55,, the 40g does have 3 holes drilled w/ bulkheads, that's a plus,,the 55 is just a plain ol' tank. plan on using either as a sump, mebbe reverse light it, mainly a place to house the skimmer, heater, etc, think the 40 g is large enuf? the 40 leads in my choice , due to the bulkheads,, wondering on if to use 0ne or two overflows, ideas / brands?? can run two overflows each into sump ,or can tee of into one to the sump,,also, what brand/size of pump? i'm a Mag-drive user now, like 'em a lot,,,wat size you all think i need? Thanks,,,,
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Old 09-17-2002, 01:00 AM   #2
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Jeff sounds like the 40 is most easily adapted to sump, at least as far as housing the hardware/life support for the tank, but wont leave you a lot of room for a decent sized refugium. Have you thought of using the 55 alongside as a refuge?
What kind of flow rate thru the sump are you thinking about? The faster the water, ie , more flow the more noise
On a tank that size a closed loop might be the hot setup for major circulation
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Old 09-17-2002, 11:00 AM   #3
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Ya Doug, i tend to think the 40 might be the one to use,due to the bulkheads,,,am gonna try to fold the 55 in the stand,,, might use both! all i can do is try,,

noise is not a issue(water flow) wife says i'm deaf anyway ,
and the silence is deafening when the power is off in the house,
been used to da related noises of our wet pets all these years,,,it's no biggie
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Old 09-17-2002, 08:40 PM   #4
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Jerel, gregT and others,, your opinions mean sumpthin,,,
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Old 09-17-2002, 10:04 PM   #5
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jeff,

bigger is always better

but, the main thing is, after you have enough water in your sump tank to allow your pumps to run without sucking in air (watch for whirlpools) or cavitating do you still have enough handle a pump failure / power loss without a flood?????

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Old 09-17-2002, 10:07 PM   #6
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The 55 isn't so much larger than the 40 anyways, plus the 40 is already drilled if you need that. Will you be putting all the equipment under the tank? If so, a large skimmer 'in-sump' along with heaters, will leave precious little room for a refugium (large enough for a 200 anyway, would be great for a 75).

How about an external skimmer with a reverse lighted refugium in the 40?
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Old 09-17-2002, 10:10 PM   #7
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Oh, one more thing, if you do use an 'in-sump' skimmer, watch out for the footprint, a 55 may not be deep enough. I recently upgraded one of my skimmers and it is in a 40g, would not have worked if it were a 55. fwiw
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Yup BB,,the equipt. is gonna be under the stand, leaning toward the 40 cuz of the holes drilled in it, and have the bulkheads /hoses already,,,still might try to fold the 55 in there too,,and use it as a 'fuge.
plan on getting a sump p. skimmer,,,,anyone got a thumbs up on what they would go with?
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Can you fit a 75g down there? Might be you could find a used one somewhere - probably cost a little over a hundred new. Why not get it the way you want it to start?
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Can you fit a 75g down there? Might be you could find a used one somewhere - probably cost a little over a hundred new. Why not get it the way you want it to start?
BB, the tank that i upsizing from is a 75,,,,i'm gonna try a empty 55 i got,,,,in the stand to see if it fits(plus it's in my work shop , next to the 200 stand), if it works , i might see if i got enuf room for the 75,,, but it doubt it , the 40 was a tight enuf fit, but heck it is a Oceanic wet/dry(gutted) in a Oceanic stand so i figgered it'll fit

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Hey Jeff, is there any way to modify the new stand so that you have at least one removable end panel. When I built my new one I incorporated that feature cause theres no way to get a 48x15 tank under it other wise
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Old 09-19-2002, 10:34 PM   #12
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Doug, after the problem i had with the first stand ordered, i'm not messing wit' NUTTIN on the stand! go check out my prior posts on my "ordeal"
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Jeff I read the ordeal too bad, after this stand removable end panels are the way to go. Any reef ready stand should be so equipped
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Old 09-22-2002, 12:32 AM   #14
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FWI to all interested, i "talked" to the wife today,about the basement/fish room,,,, i kinda was going backwards on finishing same,,,,she said,,,huh? , might as well!(jedi-mind trick)looks like things are back on for the REAL re-do on the basement,,,problem is, it'll slow me down on getting the 200 and other tanks down there,,,hehehehehe

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Old 09-22-2002, 12:35 AM   #15
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also , during our "talk",,,she got on the subject of : moving this wall , and adding a side panel(s) to the front door,,and this and that,,,,told her , the first 100 things on the list first,,,,,then,,,,
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