Rose bubble tip anemone?

reefworried124 · 11-20-2004, 01:04 AM

I plan on buying a rose bubble anemone along with a clown or 2. I got a couple of questions though.

Okay, before buying a rose bubble anemone, what should I look for, I mean, how do I know if it is sick. Is the anemone a hardy one? And what should I feed the thing? Do they grow? How do I acclimate it? Anything!

Also, what is the difference between the oscellaris clown and the percula clown??? And how big do each of them get?

Any info would be awesome!

Love Ryan

P.S. "feel the beat of the rythm of the night, forget about the worries on your mind"

rwdandald · 11-20-2004, 07:06 AM

I would really consider letting the RBTA wait another couple months to let your tank stabilize a little more. Whenever you decide to get it try to find a local club and purchase a tank clone if possible - it is good for conservation and IMO the clones do better than wild caught. The biggest thing to look for is dark coloration - don't get a bleached one.

wanareef · 11-20-2004, 07:23 AM

So taking the plunge:

Make sure it has good color. There is no such thing as a White, rose bta.

The color maybe a dusty rose and a little hint of green near the base of the tentacles (under actinics) The arms somewhat extended, maybe even full and better yet bubbled up. Should be sticky, so offer it a little food and see if it sticks. The oral disc, the mouth is closed tight, there is a white line that looks like lightening on either side of the mouth (sometimes). The foot is whole not torn or damaged. (it would be spliting) same color as the disc or could be purple but uniform.

Before you place it in your tank, now is the time to cover those PH's if you have them, with foam sponge.

After it's in your tank, it'll be small and sometimes shriviled up or maybe not and be just fully extended. It won't like bright light unless it came form a tank with MH's, it'll hide for some time and then come out usually not where you want it. Don't move them if this happens. You'll just stress them out more. Feeding, I feed our's silversides cause they are 6-8" across. You can get the smaller silver sides fron the LFS. I have also feed them shrimp, scallops, the octopus arms, tuna all soaked in Selcon.

Can't help ypu with the clowns but we have the tomato's and theyare suppose to be not as aggressive as the Maroon, tell them that. If I'm anywhere near them with my hand, they'll attack. Somethings wrong with that pix, bite the hands that feeds you

reefworried124 · 11-20-2004, 10:58 AM

Thanks guys. Well, my tank is already about 3 months old and everything is thriving in there. I think it is okay that I add an anemone.

I will go to the LFS today and check and see if they have any.

and I have powerheads, but there is a guard before the propellers, snails are always gettingsucked into them, but I just have to pull them out.

bgi · 11-20-2004, 11:07 AM

FYI: Guards won't keep the PH's from ripping an anemone apart.

reefworried124 · 11-20-2004, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bgi

FYI: Guards won't keep the PH's from ripping an anemone apart.

oooohhhh. Well, ill just have to get some sponge then. Actually, maybe the sponge might help with those snails that get caught in there too. RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR said the pirate!

Phishnoob · 11-20-2004, 12:28 PM

Get your clown living in there for a couple of months. We got it all stabilized then finally stuck in the Rose. There are some posts out there that put the chance of survival of an anenome at 5% so we somehow got lucky.

I posted someplace else that you literally have to build your tank around the anenome. It will find it's own happy place and once that is set then you can do the rest.

This is probably a little cynical but we set up our tank around our BTA.

reefworried124 · 11-20-2004, 12:38 PM

hmmmm...maybe Ill just get the clown for now. 5% survival rate? is that for a new tank?

Okay then, how bout this?? I will get a couple of mushrooms and a clown? Or maybe a couple of clowns?? Okay, what are some other cheap corals or anemones that are pretty hardy?

rwdandald · 11-20-2004, 05:14 PM

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hmmmm...maybe Ill just get the clown for now. 5% survival rate? is that for a new tank?

Okay then, how bout this?? I will get a couple of mushrooms and a clown? Or maybe a couple of clowns?? Okay, what are some other cheap corals or anemones that are pretty hardy?

Some people still claim that anemones are very difficult - I would not go that far - but I do think they really prefer a more mature stable tank. The big risk in a 40 gal tank like yours is a medium size anemone dies it can pollute the entire tank very quickly killing the other fish and things as well. At 3 months (more like 2 it would seem to me as I recall your posts) your tank has really barely cycled- nothing personal ,just an observation. Get a clown or two if you like them (remember your total fish capacity is going to be limited by size of tank to 5-6 smallish fish), mushrooms would probably do fine in your tank and are a great starter coral, xenia are simple and interesting and make tank look "reefy", and possibly a sarcophyton (toadstool leather) or Euphyllia divisia (frogspawn) might be ok as "easy" corals.

Be Patient!!!!!!

JennM · 11-20-2004, 06:08 PM

An important FYI... Ocellaris clowns (aka Nemo) and Percula clowns do NOT naturally host in BTA/Rose anemones. Sometimes in captivity they will, sometimes not.

A Rose is a good choice, E. quadricolor is one of the better species to keep, they grow large and many will split (reproduce asexually) in captivity. Natural symbionts for these are Maroons, Tomatoes (A. frenatus), Cinnamons (A. melanopus). I've seen orange skunks, pink skunks (sorry don't remember the Latin names for these) and A. clarkii (Clark's Clowns) host in them. IMO you'll have better odds with those than with A. percula or A. ocellaris. If your LFS will, you should ask them to make the match for you... buy the clowns and anemone together, once they've adopted one another. Makes for a lot less frustration later on.

HTH

Jenn

JennM · 11-20-2004, 06:09 PM

OH and the differences between A. ocellaris and A. percula are very subtle... number of dorsal fin spines and dentition (teeth) are different. Otherwise they are almost identical, and there have been reports of them cross-breeding.

Another specie that I've seen host in a BTA is A. nigripes (Maldives Clownfish or Rose Skunk Clowinfish). Not sure if that was just dumb luck... but we had a match with that once too.

Jenn

Kellyblue · 11-20-2004, 07:08 PM

I have an anemone and really love it. I think you should go for it. They are so much to watch.

Harpo · 11-20-2004, 09:56 PM

The Rose BTA, are awesome. I bought one 3 years ago, and so far have gotten 5 offsprings from it. Have 3 in our tank now, including the original. Very beautiful color. I gave one offspring to a friend in exchange for a diving certification, it has since split into 3.

Beal09 · 11-20-2004, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wanareef

So taking the plunge:

Make sure it has good color. There is no such thing as a White, rose bta.

The color maybe a dusty rose and a little hint of green near the base of the tentacles (under actinics) The arms somewhat extended, maybe even full and better yet bubbled up. Should be sticky, so offer it a little food and see if it sticks. The oral disc, the mouth is closed tight, there is a white line that looks like lightening on either side of the mouth (sometimes). The foot is whole not torn or damaged. (it would be spliting) same color as the disc or could be purple but uniform.

Before you place it in your tank, now is the time to cover those PH's if you have them, with foam sponge.

After it's in your tank, it'll be small and sometimes shriviled up or maybe not and be just fully extended. It won't like bright light unless it came form a tank with MH's, it'll hide for some time and then come out usually not where you want it. Don't move them if this happens. You'll just stress them out more. Feeding, I feed our's silversides cause they are 6-8" across. You can get the smaller silver sides fron the LFS. I have also feed them shrimp, scallops, the octopus arms, tuna all soaked in Selcon.

Can't help ypu with the clowns but we have the tomato's and theyare suppose to be not as aggressive as the Maroon, tell them that. If I'm anywhere near them with my hand, they'll attack. Somethings wrong with that pix, bite the hands that feeds you

I completely agree with all of this!! I suggest leaving it alone for at least 5 days after you put it in there...no feeding, no touching, nothing! Let them sort of settle down and find their "nitch" if you will. I fed mine a combination of silversides, mysid, and krill....occasionally I would take some DTs and thaw the silversides, mysid, krill or whatever in the DTs and then squirt it directly at it (gently) with a turkey baster (skimmer off). As for the clowns...I don't suggest either an ocellaris (tank raised, false percula) as they almost NEVER host anything!! I have a maited pair that are too **** dumb to realize what to do with it, but killed my newly added pink skunk clown that was hosting in 2 days.... :-( Tomatoes are good till they get big/older..maybe look into pink skunks, or oranges skunks, they stay relatively small, don't get too aggressive and most of all they HOST!! Either that or if space isn't an issue maybe saddlebacks. Good luck!! Oh and roses are awesome anemones in my opinion as they are hardy, they don't seem to sting corals, and of course they are gorgeous! Get one with good bubble tips though and cover those powerheads!!

In terms of other hardy corals...are you talking softies I'm assuming? If your 2X 96 are PCs....softies LOVE PCs!! take a look at leathers (except yellow fiji leathers) they are all super hardy (ie finger leathers, toadstool leathers, spaghetti leathers...etc), or colt, xenia, and kenya tree....all super easy to keep and grow VERY fast!! For LPS I would say a red open brain or frogspawn...SPS...can't help you there...not a big fan personally..Monty maybe though?

reefworried124 · 11-20-2004, 11:24 PM

Oh you know what? You are right! I started my tank up only around Sep 20 or so. My tank is not as old as I thought! Yeah, I think I am going to wait. Just did A Nitrate test today. Didn't even register on the scale so that is good. I was actually looking at some pulsating xenias. Those are cool looking.