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Old 10-15-2011, 12:28 PM   #1
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Protein skimmer + canister


Just a quick one...
So at the moment I have a 40g which has loads of LR and a canister filter suitable for upto 400l tanks. I am looking to buy a skimmer as the nitrates are just too high constantly...
I'll keep the canister running at the same time as the skimmer just for extra filtration and I don't want to put my fish through another cycle.
Wondering if the Tunze 9002, which is meant to be a decent nano skimmer, will suffice or would I be better off going slightly better to something rated more around the 300l mark?
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Old 10-15-2011, 12:33 PM   #2
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Your nitrates are high because of your canister filter. Ditch the canister and go with a protein skimmer. By removing the canister, your removing the root of your problem, and if you have live rock/live sand in your tank, it should not cycle again. It should improve. I would get the BH-1000 for your tank. I have it on a 29 gallon biocube and it works like a champ. Its rated up to 90 gallons I believe.....and it skims like nothing else will. Its compact and quite and a great price for the quality.
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Old 10-15-2011, 12:59 PM   #3
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Its one of those things where I know it would be a good purchase in the long run but I am scared of it all going wrong now and having another ammonia spike! And I do hate the canister it is such a pain to maintain, it creates a lake in my living room every time I open it.
Suppose I could run the two together to start with and slowly break down the canister? (thinking of lessening the impact if a cycle did kick off)
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Old 10-15-2011, 01:18 PM   #4
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How much livestock do you have in the tank and how much do you feed? What are your nitrate readings?
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Old 10-15-2011, 01:46 PM   #5
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2 clowns, 1 royal gramma, 1 regal tang and a clean up crew. amm 0 nitrite 0 nitrate about 40, kept down mainly with water changes. Feed them probably about just over half a frozen block of brine shrimp or marine cuisine a day.
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Old 10-15-2011, 01:57 PM   #6
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Tank is way to small for a tang, especialy with no skimmer, thay are eating machines and poop uncontralably!
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Old 10-15-2011, 02:22 PM   #7
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yer... its only about 2" at the mo though. See how it goes...
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Old 10-15-2011, 02:51 PM   #8
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I swear my tang poops all day, I feed 1x a day but he grazes all day on the rocks and glass.
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Old 10-15-2011, 02:59 PM   #9
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+1 ditch the canister - mechanical filters are for freshwater cause they have no choice - us saltys are lucky to have skimmers and live rock

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Old 10-15-2011, 03:19 PM   #10
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Just a quick one...
So at the moment I have a 40g which has loads of LR and a canister filter suitable for upto 400l tanks. I am looking to buy a skimmer as the nitrates are just too high constantly...
I'll keep the canister running at the same time as the skimmer just for extra filtration and I don't want to put my fish through another cycle.
Wondering if the Tunze 9002, which is meant to be a decent nano skimmer, will suffice or would I be better off going slightly better to something rated more around the 300l mark?
No one can make a blanket statement such as "the canister is the reason for the nitrates." Canisters are fine as long as they are kept clean. Not only that, they can be an adjunct accessory for running various type of media. 40 ppm Nitrate is not way to high. I had a "stubborn" tank that held 40 ppm for 2-3 years. I finally added some Halimeda and they went to zero after about 3 weeks. A skimmer is a good decision but in no way a solution for Nitrate. Reduced bio load and perhaps Macro Algae is though.
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Old 10-15-2011, 03:57 PM   #11
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lol if you say so plum - funny thing is i have a 125 and a 55 running with only skimmers/liverock and power heads and have 0 nitrates

also cut back on your amount fed half of a cube per day is a lot - have just as much fish and a little more and a cube will last me at least 4 days - i put it in a cup with water and feed with a turkey baster and throw it back in the fridge
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Old 10-15-2011, 04:17 PM   #12
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lol if you say so plum - funny thing is i have a 125 and a 55 running with only skimmers/liverock and power heads and have 0 nitrates
That doesn't prove the cannister is to blame...you might just have better husbandry. Granted, I just removed my canister because the maintenance was too much
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9 times out of 10 ppl come on here asking for advice about nitrates have a mechanical filter - bet
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I would not blame the filter, if you keep it clean you will be ok. 9 times out of ten people are not properly maintaning filters, sand beds, etc. bet?
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lol true - still would ditch it - its not needed
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