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Old 02-07-2002, 12:37 AM   #1
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Phosphates


Quik question, what will get rid of unwanted phosphates from water.
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Old 02-07-2002, 12:58 AM   #2
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unwanted red slime algae for one. Other algaes will also use it up. You can also get "phosphate sponge" to absorb it out of the water, Kent marine makes one as well as a few other companies.
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Old 02-07-2002, 09:11 AM   #3
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Nhilchrest,
Your question is related to the information in your other post re: RO water.
IMHO, the filter is insufficient to manage the bioload in your system. Even then, the media must be cleaned or changed at least every couple of days or organic matter trapped by the filter is returned to the water as Nitrates. If it is your plan to eventually develop the tank as a reef, you are going to have to invest in at least 50 more pounds of good live rock. I would also recommend immediately getting a good Protein Skimmer to help export the nutrients from your system.

Your source water is highly important. Reverse Osmosis, coupled with a Deionization filter will give you the best quality. At the very least, get a Tap Water Purifier, though, over a year or two, the cost of the replacement filters would equal the cost of a decent RO/DI unit.

If you don't have it already, I highly recommend buying and reading Robert Fenner's The Conscientous Marine Aquarist. It is available online for around $25. This book will orient you in the right direction with the comprehensive info you need to be successful.

You mentioned 4 fish in your tank; what kind and size are they?

From the info in your other post, it would seem that your algae problems stem not only from your source tap water, but also inadequate biofiltration to process the organic matter in your tank from fish waste and leftover food. Using a power filter also contributes excess Nitrates as the organic detritus builds up in the filter media.

Phophate sponges and such are only temporary fixes. For long term success, the source must be eliminated. RO water will help a great deal along with changing from power filters to LR/LS/Protein skimming.

Please read the important info on these sites:
http://www.reefcorner.com/reef%20keeping_101.htm
http://faq.thekrib.com/sbegin.html
http://saltyzoo.com:8081/http://salt...rner/index.htm
and for more info on LR/LS:
http://sps.reefkeepers.org/LiveRockFAQ.htm
http://www.reefkeepers.org/faq/cache/33.html

Bear in mind as you read these articles and info that there are many varying opinions on how best to setup and maintain a reef tank. Only by reading as much as you can and continuing to ask questions can you make your own informed choices.

I have been where you are. I started my 55 with a power filter and 30 pounds of live rock, with a 2" Dolomite substrate. The only good stuff I had was the rock! I did use a Magnum 350 Pro filter with biowheels, which is a pretty good filtration systm for a fish-only tank of this size but not for development of a reef tank.

Fortunately, I found Brooke, Doug, Alice, and a few others 3 years ago and reoriented my system completely. The Dolomite was switched to a sandbed; more rock was added; a skimmer went on; and the Magnum went to a closet!

Hope this helps,
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Old 02-07-2002, 10:06 AM   #4
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Nihlcrest,
BTW, where in Oregon are you located? The board is loaded with Oreeegonians and there is a great NW Reef Club there. I'm sure some of the members local to you would be glad to give you some first hand help.
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Old 02-07-2002, 10:07 AM   #5
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Welcome to The Reef Tank!

Dick hit the nail on the head, source water is what it's all about. What you are feeding the tank can also make a big difference as to phosphate levels; flake and processed foods will push them up. The next thing to look at is filtration for nutrient export (skimmer.)

It's good to see another Oregon reefer on the board! You might want to check out the PNWMAS (Pacific NW Marine Aquarium Society) forum here. We've got members from all over the state and hold monthly meetings.

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Old 02-07-2002, 11:48 PM   #6
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The four fish that I have are all damsels, two blues, a four stripe, and a domino. The four stipe has been with me four about five months he has lived through everything I have taken him out with ornaments four 15 min. or so and he is still living strong. I have a decorator crab and some kind of hermit crab. I am just wanting to get rid of this algea problem. Thanx for the help guys.
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