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10-10-2006, 06:46 PM
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Plankton
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: San Marcos
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Ok, Now I am confused
I asked for some advice on another forum, and what they told me was shocking. Long story short, basically I dont need to have any mechanical filtration besides my skimmer, if I have a very established tank with enough sand and LR?
55 gallon, running 2+ years
2 inch sand base
60lbs tonga branch LR full of coraline
CPR Backpack skimmer
Big Clean up crew
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10-10-2006, 06:47 PM
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Shark
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Corning, California
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what kind of critters you gonna have in there??
reef only or fish too
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10-10-2006, 06:48 PM
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Shark
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Toledo OH
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Yup a good skimmer is really all you need!
The LR will do your biolgical filtration. Plus regular WC's and your good to go!
All I have is flow and a Big Skimmer and run carbon from time to time!
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TIM MADE ME DO IT, Yet Robert made him do it, yet Casey made him do it!
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10-10-2006, 06:49 PM
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Shark
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Toledo OH
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 Welcome as well! 
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Nano reef in the works
TIM MADE ME DO IT, Yet Robert made him do it, yet Casey made him do it!
Yet the voices in all their heads made them do it (skeety)
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10-10-2006, 06:49 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: bend, oregon
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What they told you at that other site is more or less true. Adequate flow through healthy live rock along with a skimmer is really the only filtration necessary for a happy healthy reef. The skimmer isnt even necessary if you wanted to change tons of water....but for most realistic purposes...it is necessary.
Most other mechanical filters become detritus traps uinless you clean them every couple of days and can do much more harm thatn good
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Last edited by Fly Guy; 10-10-2006 at 06:58 PM.
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10-10-2006, 06:54 PM
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Shark
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: new york city
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Three months ago I was just like you except I had a tank that was way out of whack. I slowly removed all my bio balls and media from my canister and bought a new skimmer and ro unit. I will be honest with you removing all the bio balls and media was one of the scariest things I ve ever done. Three months later and all my test are the way they should be the corals and fish have never been happier.
Good luck and welcome to trt!
Patrick
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10-10-2006, 07:12 PM
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I'm sorry.......
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: South West Florida
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Welcome Wicked!! You will love it here at TRT.....I know I do !!!!!!!
I agree with all of the above statements....Good skimmer and water changes....or bad skimmer and lots of water changes......or no skimmer and a ton of water changes.......
Get rid of the bio-balls and any mechanical filtration it is a safe haven for phosphates and food to promote algae growth!!!
Patrick, I remember that thread...it feels just like yesterday ....oh know here it comes....  I get all emotional remembering back then...when even I had bio-balls......
Wicked you will learn so much information reading the threads here!!! It makes keeping a reef so much easier when you have a great support group like here. I know I have learned a ton of information here over the last year that i did not know.....and I've had fish tanks and reef tanks for most of my life...
Once again WELCOME!!!!
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10-10-2006, 07:15 PM
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I loves me a water change
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: WI
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Welcome aboard, wickeddroptop!! w0000000000000000000t!!!
Do you have the blue stringy stuff in your CPR?
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10-10-2006, 07:34 PM
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Plankton
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: San Marcos
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Thank you so much everyone, I am going to unplug the Fluval today, and wait a few days, and get rid of the hang on back. God I hope nothing gets screwed up. Heres a picture by the way. The tank was overrun with Kenya tree frags and Aptasia. I pretty much got rid of the majority of Aptasia (ongoing battle) and kept the few choice Kenya's

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10-10-2006, 07:39 PM
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Shark
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Toledo OH
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You can keep the fluval for added flow or adding carbon. Just be sure to remove everything in it. Also if you run carbon replace or remove it every 2 weeks or so!
Tank looks pretty good!!
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Nano reef in the works
TIM MADE ME DO IT, Yet Robert made him do it, yet Casey made him do it!
Yet the voices in all their heads made them do it (skeety)
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10-10-2006, 07:40 PM
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I loves me a water change
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Good looking tank indeed!
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10-10-2006, 07:54 PM
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The Muddy Mod
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Uxbridge, MA
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Welcome to TRT! Great looking tank!!
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10-10-2006, 09:03 PM
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It can be rebuilt.
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Pittsboro, NC
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Welcome to TRT!!
what kind of skimmer do you have?
G~
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10-10-2006, 10:37 PM
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Shark
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Toledo OH
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wickeddroptop
I asked for some advice on another forum, and what they told me was shocking. Long story short, basically I dont need to have any mechanical filtration besides my skimmer, if I have a very established tank with enough sand and LR?
55 gallon, running 2+ years
2 inch sand base
60lbs tonga branch LR full of coraline
CPR Backpack skimmer
Big Clean up crew
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See above! 
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Nano reef in the works
TIM MADE ME DO IT, Yet Robert made him do it, yet Casey made him do it!
Yet the voices in all their heads made them do it (skeety)
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10-11-2006, 08:34 AM
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Shark
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: new york city
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 110galreef
You can keep the fluval for added flow or adding carbon. Just be sure to remove everything in it. Also if you run carbon replace or remove it every 2 weeks or so!
Tank looks pretty good!!
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I love your tank and welcome to TRT. Like mentioned above you can keep your fluval. I kept my ehiem i use it for flow. I also kept my hang on. Just remove all the media and they will be fine. You can always use them for flow. I didn't go with the carbon because I was afraid I would get lazy and not remove it every few weeks so i just left mine empty. I did put a cpl of lr in my hangon it problem doesn't do anything but it's there.
Patrick
Ps Bill your too funny!
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