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06-15-2005, 10:11 PM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Newbie has more questions on sumps and refugiums
Hey Guys,
Sorry I haven't been on here in awhile. Was doing some research on products for my tank and working. I have some more questions, so here they are:
1. What is the difference between a sump and a refugium?
2. Could I do both together in the same 20 gal long tank?
3. I want to upgrade my protein skimmer and put it in the sump. Could I use an Aqua C Urchin Pro with a Mag Drive 3 pump? I heard good things about them.
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06-15-2005, 10:16 PM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: May 2005
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One more quick question. Do I have to have a certain amount of posts, in order to have my signature show up?
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55 gal reef tank
2 Filstar XP2 canister filters
(w/purigen & phosguard)
Seaclone Skimmer
2 Maxi-Jet 900 PH's in the top back coners
Coralife Lunar Light w/ (2) 65w 10,000K Daylights, (2) 65w True Actinic 03 Blue compact fluorescents, and (4) blue-moon-glow LEDs
2 cooling fans under the canopy
FISH: ....................INVERTS:
Percula Clown .........Banded Coral Shrimp
Dwarf Hawkfish .......Serpent Star
Singapore Angel RIP.Sand Sifting Star
Coral Beauty ...........Sally Lightfoot Crab
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06-15-2005, 10:17 PM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Nevermind, it just showed up. But....do I need to put anymore important information on it?
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55 gal reef tank
2 Filstar XP2 canister filters
(w/purigen & phosguard)
Seaclone Skimmer
2 Maxi-Jet 900 PH's in the top back coners
Coralife Lunar Light w/ (2) 65w 10,000K Daylights, (2) 65w True Actinic 03 Blue compact fluorescents, and (4) blue-moon-glow LEDs
2 cooling fans under the canopy
FISH: ....................INVERTS:
Percula Clown .........Banded Coral Shrimp
Dwarf Hawkfish .......Serpent Star
Singapore Angel RIP.Sand Sifting Star
Coral Beauty ...........Sally Lightfoot Crab
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06-15-2005, 10:18 PM
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Admin/ Super mod
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: New Castle, Delaware
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well Pbear.
here is some reading for you on just that!.
also read the sump articles by gregt. very very good adn will give you a lot of ideas.
in a nut shell. sump is an extention of the tank and a great place to hide things ( heater, skimmer etc..) it adds volume to your tank.
a refuge can be one of two things.. a place to keep fish or others safe ( haven) or a area to use as a organics export. using various types or macroalgae. Some also try to use this as a pod habitat for the main tank.
can it be done on a 20 long.. possible.. think you can seperate then out to 20L sump and 10g refuge?
not sure about your skimmer , that is not one i have or have used.
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06-15-2005, 10:19 PM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Charlotte, NC
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So a sump basically hides equipment and a refugium has LR, mineral mud, and calpera in it? So then I could do both, right?
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55 gal reef tank
2 Filstar XP2 canister filters
(w/purigen & phosguard)
Seaclone Skimmer
2 Maxi-Jet 900 PH's in the top back coners
Coralife Lunar Light w/ (2) 65w 10,000K Daylights, (2) 65w True Actinic 03 Blue compact fluorescents, and (4) blue-moon-glow LEDs
2 cooling fans under the canopy
FISH: ....................INVERTS:
Percula Clown .........Banded Coral Shrimp
Dwarf Hawkfish .......Serpent Star
Singapore Angel RIP.Sand Sifting Star
Coral Beauty ...........Sally Lightfoot Crab
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06-15-2005, 10:20 PM
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Admin/ Super mod
Join Date: Aug 2003
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i see vince beat me to the punch!
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Tim
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06-15-2005, 10:21 PM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Charlotte, NC
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you are not sure on the aqua c urchin?
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55 gal reef tank
2 Filstar XP2 canister filters
(w/purigen & phosguard)
Seaclone Skimmer
2 Maxi-Jet 900 PH's in the top back coners
Coralife Lunar Light w/ (2) 65w 10,000K Daylights, (2) 65w True Actinic 03 Blue compact fluorescents, and (4) blue-moon-glow LEDs
2 cooling fans under the canopy
FISH: ....................INVERTS:
Percula Clown .........Banded Coral Shrimp
Dwarf Hawkfish .......Serpent Star
Singapore Angel RIP.Sand Sifting Star
Coral Beauty ...........Sally Lightfoot Crab
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06-15-2005, 10:21 PM
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Admin/ Super mod
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: New Castle, Delaware
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it is possible to do a 20 l for both but , i ( IMO) like they seperate. i lke having a greater volume for the sump.
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06-15-2005, 10:22 PM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Charlotte, NC
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from what i read, the urchin is the same thing as the remora, but the urchin is the sump model and the remora is the hob model. how do you feel about the rmoras?
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55 gal reef tank
2 Filstar XP2 canister filters
(w/purigen & phosguard)
Seaclone Skimmer
2 Maxi-Jet 900 PH's in the top back coners
Coralife Lunar Light w/ (2) 65w 10,000K Daylights, (2) 65w True Actinic 03 Blue compact fluorescents, and (4) blue-moon-glow LEDs
2 cooling fans under the canopy
FISH: ....................INVERTS:
Percula Clown .........Banded Coral Shrimp
Dwarf Hawkfish .......Serpent Star
Singapore Angel RIP.Sand Sifting Star
Coral Beauty ...........Sally Lightfoot Crab
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06-15-2005, 10:22 PM
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Moderator
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The urchin is a good choice, it's the in sump equivilent of the remora.
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06-15-2005, 10:22 PM
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Admin/ Super mod
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yes i have not used on of them.. so i can not givve you anything about them.
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06-15-2005, 10:23 PM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Charlotte, NC
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stupid question here. what does IMO mean?
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55 gal reef tank
2 Filstar XP2 canister filters
(w/purigen & phosguard)
Seaclone Skimmer
2 Maxi-Jet 900 PH's in the top back coners
Coralife Lunar Light w/ (2) 65w 10,000K Daylights, (2) 65w True Actinic 03 Blue compact fluorescents, and (4) blue-moon-glow LEDs
2 cooling fans under the canopy
FISH: ....................INVERTS:
Percula Clown .........Banded Coral Shrimp
Dwarf Hawkfish .......Serpent Star
Singapore Angel RIP.Sand Sifting Star
Coral Beauty ...........Sally Lightfoot Crab
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06-15-2005, 10:23 PM
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Milkshake Man
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SW Florida
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Originally Posted by PBearslax36
stupid question here. what does IMO mean?
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In My Opinion
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06-15-2005, 10:23 PM
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Admin/ Super mod
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Vince will you stop reading my mind! 
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