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Old 09-22-2004, 02:48 PM   #1
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New Reef Setup Questions


Hi everyone, I’ve been searching/reading a lot of posts on this forum for the past week and have found a lot of great information and friendly replies. I now seek more specific advice/information related to my own set up. Here is what I have:
Tank = 20g glass tank
LR = 30#
SB = 1 – 2 inches of small beach type sand (not CC)
Protein Skimmer = CPR Bak Pak II
Filter = Penguin Mini ( with BIO Wheel removed )
Lighting = Coralife Lunar Aqualight Deluxe Series-24" (65 watt 10,000K Daylight bulb, 65 watt True Actinic 03 Blue)
PowerHead = 1 Maxi-Jet 600

The tank has been set up and running for 2 weeks now and seemed to cycle very quick (about 1 week). I had a very small patch of short green hair algae so I added a clean up crew of 12 small hermit crabs, and 6 Astrea Snails (and the power head listed above) 4 days ago. I also cut back on the hours of lighting and this eliminated the hair algae problem. fficeffice" />>>

I have been checking my water daily since adding the clean up crew and it has been

Ammonia = 0.0
Nitrate < 10 ppm
Nitrite = 0
Ph = 8.2
SG = 1.021 – 1.022 >>

My Questions:

1. I would like to start adding some corals, but am afraid it is still too soon. Given my current water conditions have been steady for almost a week now could I start thinking about adding some coral?

2. What kinds of coral and how much should I be looking at given the equipment listed above?

3. I am also planning on eventually adding 1 maybe 2 fish (clown and something else) any thoughts or suggestions here, and is there an order to follow (fish before coral or vise versa)

4. I am planning on weekly 5g water changes, is this too much, too little?

5. Power Head placement, I currently have the power head placed on the side of the tank about halfway down angled so it blows off the front of the tank and then across the reef (very indirect) would it be better to just have it blow directly across the reef?

Any thoughts/suggestions would be appreciated.
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Old 09-22-2004, 03:23 PM   #2
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you are still cycling give it some more time before you dump more money in it ...............sit on your hands for a few more weeks
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Old 09-22-2004, 03:31 PM   #3
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Paitence is very benificial to your wallet and your tank! Just hang in there, read about the critters you want and then wait a little longer!

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Old 09-22-2004, 04:59 PM   #4
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Hi sedey! Welcome! Yeah, a week is pretty short for a tank to cycle, my suspicion is that it's not fully cycled yet, too. Watching the test kit results everyday - did you see spikes for ammonia that leveled off and started back down - then an overlapping rise in nitrites that eventually leveled off and fell? You should have been able to see that happening, since you tested every day.

Ultimately, when you're sure the tank has cycled, you shouldn't add more than one fish at a time. Each time you add a fish, the tank will go thru another mini-cycle. Did you use decaying seafood to cycle your tank? Clowns are pretty hardy, and that would be a good first fish to add after the cycle is complete. Only one clown in your tank, of course.

After adding a fish, if everything goes well and testing show good results - give your SB a little time to develop. You'll probably go thru another algae outbreak in this period and possibly a cyano outbreak when the algae starts to die off. You can reduce the photoperiod to discourage the algae problems during this time, because your fish don't care about a shorter photoperiod (but corals would). I'd say in a couple of months, it would be pretty safe to add certain types of corals - mushrooms, for instance. Don't try for an anemone until the tank has been running for a year. Certain kinds of fish also require a mature tank (anthias and mandarins, for instance). You'll want to avoid those fish for the time being also.

I know it's frustrating to go thru the waiting, but losing fish and corals is even more frustrating. Plus, if you jump too fast, you'll end up in a crisis situation and be spending a zillion hours on maintainance and efforts to keep everything alive and healthy. Not to mention the stress and worry for you.

There are a lot of great things you can do during this period. One good one is to research fish compatibility and plan out your tank. Look into coral warfare issues; soft corals put out chemical warfare stuff that will hamper hard coral health. Post a thread on suggestions for fish that get along and would be happy in your 20 gal.

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Old 09-22-2004, 07:02 PM   #5
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Paitence is something I have. I certainly would rather take my time and do things right. I do have one more question regarding my skimmer. I have read about people removing the bio media from this skimmer for reef setups. Is this something I should consider?
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Old 09-22-2004, 08:39 PM   #6
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Glad you're asking these questions, as I have a 12g Nano that I've been looking for similar answers. Mine has been cycling 2 weeks, just added 2 Damsels to get the bacteria used to the bioload. Had pre-cured rock, and added live sand to mine, so I never saw fluctuations in the Ammonia, so I figure by adding fish I can start a cycle myself.
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Hi Sedey, I haven't heard of a skimmer with bio media in it (unless it's a sponge thing), but in general, bio media isn't that great to have because it holds detritus and gives you higher nitrates (I think) and also because it can clog. Maybe someone else can answer that better than me. I'm glad you have that patience!

Hi Deuce! I probably would have just used one fish in a 12G nano, but you'll probably be okay. Congrats on your nano!
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