Sponsor Our Community
Go Back   The Reef Tank > Reef Discussion Forums > General Reef Discussion

General Reef Discussion In this forum we discuss issues related to keeping marine and reef aquariums in a friendly flame-free environment.


Registered Members don't see these ads. Register now it's free!

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 11-13-2006, 09:36 PM   #1
partobe
Shark
 
partobe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: new york city
Posts: 6,160
Images: 4

Mixing Water?


Hi Everyone,
I prepared my water for my biweekly water change. I noticed after adding the salt that it looked like a snow storm. So I posted a thread ("two threads in one). After chatting with a few of you I found out that I'm suppose to keep the bucket of premixed salt air tight. This is something I didn't know. Ive decided not to change the water this week and to wait for the salt I ordered on line to arrive and do it next week. I just wondered if there is something more I'm missing? Here is how I mix my water PLEASE feel free to tell me if I'm skipping something.
1. Make the ro water in my 20 gallon bucket
2. turn the ph and heater on
3. Take out the salt and now close the lid asap on the pre mixed salt
4. Add the salt
5. Make sure the temp and salinity are the same as in the main tank.
6. Wait 24 hours
7. Take water from the main tank.
8. Add the new water.
Please let me know if I'm not doing this correctly or if I'm leaving something out.
Thanks for all your help
Patrick
Registered Members don't see these ads. Register now it's free!
__________________
Lions, Triggers and blennies! Oh My!
partobe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2006, 10:22 PM   #2
Wiskey
Just some guy, you know?
 
Wiskey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: West of Dimples
Posts: 18,099
Images: 70
Looks good to me, I would add the salt slowly though.

Whiskey
__________________
Mr. Jive/Dr. Heckyll
Wiskey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2006, 05:22 AM   #3
rdaled
my buddy Tyson
 
rdaled's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Salisbury, NC
Posts: 475
Would it be good to wait until the fresh water is around 75 degrees before adding the salt or does it matter?
__________________
Dale
rdaled is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2006, 05:24 AM   #4
whatevva
The Muddy Mod
 
whatevva's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Uxbridge, MA
Posts: 5,022
I would make sure that Alkalinity is matching. Tank water/New water
__________________
Butch
"I'm King of the Sea People" - Cartman
Member - TriState Reef Society

http://thereeftank.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76110
whatevva is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2006, 07:02 AM   #5
partobe
Shark
 
partobe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: new york city
Posts: 6,160
Images: 4
thanks Butch Whiskey and dale
__________________
Lions, Triggers and blennies! Oh My!
partobe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2006, 07:12 AM   #6
partobe
Shark
 
partobe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: new york city
Posts: 6,160
Images: 4
Do you guys and ladies think it will hurt my tank to wait another week before I do the water change? I have new salt ordered but it wont be here until fri.
__________________
Lions, Triggers and blennies! Oh My!
partobe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2006, 07:34 AM   #7
pastina
shark
 
pastina's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: PA
Posts: 1,838
im a bit confused, what causes the snow storm? actual salt bits or the sand being kicked up when you add the new saltwater?
are you using instant ocean salt? IO is famous for "sweating in the bag" and not mixing properly.
i still havent bought an air tight container (i keep forgetting) so every time i use the salt even if its 48 hours later the dang stuff just doesnt dissolve properly and i get "snow" when i add it to my tanks
the summer is the worst, dang thing caked so much and actually swelled so that when i added the correct amount it was way less than the measuring cup said due to the salt swelling. what was usually 1.026 mixed came out to be 1.018
im starting to wonder if all salt brands do this or just IO
maybe i should just buy the bucket lol, ive been buying the bags only because its easier for me to carry and easier to store
are you using the bucket or the bags?
__________________
220g bare bottom softee tank
pastina is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2006, 07:50 AM   #8
partobe
Shark
 
partobe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: new york city
Posts: 6,160
Images: 4
Pastina Like ou I'm not really sure what happens. Tom explained it to me but I guess I'm not that knowledgeable even when it's explained to me. Here is my understanding. If you leave the bag or in my case the bucket open and exposed to air for too long the calcium locks together and thats the white stuff you see floating. Some folks say the water is ok to use but it may be low on trace elements others say toss it and make a new batch. To be on the safe side I'm tossing mine. When my new bucket of salt arrives this week I will take out the salt I need and reseal it immediately.
Patrick
__________________
Lions, Triggers and blennies! Oh My!
partobe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2006, 07:56 AM   #9
Hardhead Cat
Stinky Slimey FEESH
 
Hardhead Cat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 1,833
Images: 2
As far as I know, you have it exactly right - the salt mix will get moisture from the air in it, causes the snowy bloom when you add it to your RO water.

Patrick, your procedure looks good - the only thing I would change is checking the temp and salinity AFTER the water / salt have mixed for 24 hours. They will change as the salt dissolves.

HHC
__________________
You can't kill a fish born to hang.....
135-gal Oceanic reef, MH, PC, Lunar
12-gal Nanocube
Hardhead Cat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2006, 08:01 AM   #10
partobe
Shark
 
partobe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: new york city
Posts: 6,160
Images: 4
Thanks HHC I think I will toss this batch and go buy a small bag to make for tomorrow
__________________
Lions, Triggers and blennies! Oh My!
partobe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2006, 09:33 AM   #11
pastina
shark
 
pastina's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: PA
Posts: 1,838
i tried buying new bags in the beginning when this used to happen. but i found that the bag would only last two times before it would clump up and cause that snow, even though i tied the bags tightly and squeezed out some air from the bag. i got tired of wasting money and throwing away new bags of salt and ive just been using it the way it is. ive been doing it for a year now and so far i havent seen any negative effects maybe because i add my own trace elements (?)
i will finish up this bag and try the bucket and hopefully that will put an end to the snow storms.
i wonder what happends to the snow when it hits the tank? lol
it does dissapear in a few minutes, maybe it just gets sucked up in the filter?
a few months ago i spoke to a lady that went through this and she told me she uses rubbermaid bins like for cereal, they keep the salt air tight and she never had the clumps or snow storm again. silly forgetfull me, id always forget to buy the rubbermaid lol
__________________
220g bare bottom softee tank
pastina is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2006, 09:43 AM   #12
Wiskey
Just some guy, you know?
 
Wiskey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: West of Dimples
Posts: 18,099
Images: 70
I think you will be fine to wait an extra week on a water change. Your tank is mostally softies anyway, they would probably love you for it

Whiskey
__________________
Mr. Jive/Dr. Heckyll
Wiskey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2006, 10:10 AM   #13
partobe
Shark
 
partobe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: new york city
Posts: 6,160
Images: 4
Thanks Whiskey,
Well I already started making the water and ran down to the lfs and picked up a small box of rc salt. So I guess the water change will happen tomorrow.
Patrick
__________________
Lions, Triggers and blennies! Oh My!
partobe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2006, 10:50 AM   #14
Wiskey
Just some guy, you know?
 
Wiskey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: West of Dimples
Posts: 18,099
Images: 70
Cool.

Whiskey
__________________
Mr. Jive/Dr. Heckyll
Wiskey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2006, 10:56 AM   #15
partobe
Shark
 
partobe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: new york city
Posts: 6,160
Images: 4
Thanks Whiskey!
Pastina I hope this thread helps you as well.
Patrick
__________________
Lions, Triggers and blennies! Oh My!
partobe is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
instant ocean salt



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Sitemap:1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183
Sponsor Our Community

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:05 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright