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09-28-2004, 11:20 AM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Philadelphia
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Mangroves
Time to take a breather from the bashing Im taking in the think tank, lol....
I have 12 mangroves in my fuge, they are not nearly large enough to have an impact on my water quality yet(i guess..)...
Has anyone kept them for a lengthy period and documented a change for the better in water quality?
Is there a definitive answer to how many you need? i.e...mangrove per gallon...
Is this a passing fad or is there evidence they do anything?
I think they look interesting and I believe the theory of nutrient removal s sound...but again, any studies on this? Anybody read anything?
-HRR
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09-28-2004, 11:37 AM
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Life is a beach
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Vancouver Wa.
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I think Garf has some documented notes on the use of Mangroves. I have one in my fuge that is starting to get it's first leaf. I need 4 or 5 more. Can you send me some?
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09-28-2004, 12:27 PM
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Skimmer and Reactor
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: East Atlanta Village
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Is it just me or is the garf site extremely difficult to navigate through? I go there and get so mad that I can't find what I want that I have to leave. Each page has different buttons or no buttons at all.
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09-28-2004, 12:44 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Pittsboro, NC
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mangroves are extremely slow growing, so with that in mind they are extremely slow at removing nutrients. 
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09-28-2004, 02:06 PM
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Master of Perplexity
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: panama city beach FL
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I've heard the slow-growing thing, but I bought one two months ago with 2 leaves and now it has 8, so I'm impressed. I've seen something where they claim you'd need (or maybe they just suggest) like 1plant/5 gallons of water, but don't know where the info came from. They may or may not help with filtration, but I think they are cool. Mine already has tubeworms on the trunk and zoanthids around the base. I think I'll start a mangrove swamp!
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09-28-2004, 04:26 PM
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Good boy
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Marietta, GA, USA
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Originally Posted by Hi-Rise Reefer
Time to take a breather from the bashing Im taking in the think tank, lol....
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You might want to refrain from posting when you've been drinking. Sorry I couldn't resist.
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09-28-2004, 09:47 PM
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Master of Perplexity
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: panama city beach FL
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Coulda been worse!
Last edited by yardboy; 01-29-2006 at 07:38 PM.
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09-30-2004, 06:21 PM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 65
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Ha! Drinking maybe, but only in making light of myself in jest. That is a good thread and I made legitamte points that alot of people think but never say. I have posted a pix of my toilet there if a wanna see, ill be adding more pix...
OK mangroves...yes, I like the idea of them getting to be niced sized with lifeforms growing on the base. I am suspect as to how much nutrient they remove, but they definatley cant hurt...Since I change my water infequently, I think I will be able to notice if the groves remove tratres at a significant level...I have to start testing more.. They do look neat...
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10-01-2004, 12:50 AM
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Big Fish
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Central Oregon
Posts: 373
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I said what i had too say "LAZY"/ Wouldn't want too swim in a cespool!
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10-01-2004, 01:03 AM
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Big Fish
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Central Oregon
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I think the mangroves are a cop out for not cleaning his tank. Most of us use them as a helping hand, not the actuall maintenance man! There is no subsitute for regular maintenance!!!!!!!!!
Lips
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10-01-2004, 01:54 AM
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squid
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Beaverton
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Garf site is designed with Chaos theory in mind. Some cool stuff there but yo u have to work for it.
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10-01-2004, 02:31 PM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Portland, Oregon
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so do you put mangroves in sump? ive heard people say they float them in styraphome.. does that mean they dont need to touch bottom?
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10-01-2004, 03:06 PM
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gotta be a reefer
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: fremont. michigan
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i can not find the web site now for some reason but julian sprung has a post on a site with really good info on the use of mangroves. i think they are a great investment. i have 12 cleaning my 29 gallon tank plus some cheato algae and both are doing great.
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10-01-2004, 08:42 PM
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Skimmer and Reactor
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: East Atlanta Village
Posts: 1,657
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I have two mangroves in my refugium. Hopefully I'll have some more in the future. (Next chance I have to go to the keys ) They are very slow growing. I've had them for a month and a half and seen no growth on one and a few roots on the other. |
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10-01-2004, 08:56 PM
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Master of Perplexity
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: panama city beach FL
Posts: 3,431
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Well darn it, I was going to give you the link to an article in Advanced Aquarist magazine, but anyway, it's the April 2002 issue. Here the magazine:
http://advancedaquarist.com/index/
By the way Melissa, what kind of light are they under? I've had one under a 250W Sunburst MH for two months and it has four more leaves (now 6) and the terminal bud is about to unfurl two more! |
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