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11-20-2004, 10:11 AM
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Human grounding probe
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Wyoming
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Mama don't like my Bare Bottom
Well it's nearing time for the big tranformation. My wife dropped the bomb just now and says she hates the Bare Bottom. She wants sand. I want to argue but I know better. In truth I don't want nor have I the capability to keep SPS's. I am lookin at a LPS, softie, leather tank. I could get away with sand. Help me out folks. I have been thinkin BB so long I haven't even considered this. So far here is the setup.
29g - standard glass tank
daul satallite fixture w/ daul daylight and dual actinic all 65w
CS50 overflow (on back order) rated at 300gph
Pumps? I was lookin at the maximum my overflow could take but realisticaly I can get away with alot less with the critters I want to keep.
Closed loop? Is this still an option? Well yes, it is but what kind of flow?
Spray bar? Is this just ask for trouble with a substrate?
I hate the look of powerheads and I want to refrain from using them as much as possible. I will try to accomlish all my flow goals with the return and a closed loop with a SCWD in the mix some place. I am still gonna suspend my rock on an eggcrate shelf now I'll just have to make it higher to accomidate substrate. An algae scrubber of some type is in consideration as well. With the lower flow I might just use my "fuge" as a scrubber/settle out tank. Running 100% of my overflow through it first then into my baffled sump for skimming and chemical filtration.
All ideas are welcome and will recive cinsideration.
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11-20-2004, 10:14 AM
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Pretty In Pink
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: portland or
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11-20-2004, 10:28 AM
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Human grounding probe
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Wyoming
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How did I miss finding that site. That thing kicks hairy arse. Gotta have one. Now I just gotta make si my rock covers all that ugly pipe work.
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11-20-2004, 10:30 AM
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senior member
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Walnut Grove, SC, USA
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just do it, although with the stuff you have listed, you ought to get a 55 or 60 gal tank.
it's never too late to upgrade size.. 
55 gl will need 2 bags of southdown.
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11-20-2004, 10:55 AM
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Human grounding probe
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Wyoming
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If I wanna upsize I need new knee pads and a 55g drum of chapstick for all the butt kissin I'll have to do.
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11-20-2004, 11:31 AM
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I've got the REEF rash!
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: New Jersey
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I'm in better shape then you tabwyo.My wife said to me."If you want a bigger tank!Then it's going to have to be big enough for you to sleep in".so far I order the plexie glass to cover the walls and the floor in 2nd bed room and orderd more Scuba tanks!Ahh! to here the tanker trucks beeping in reverse to do a water change!!
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11-20-2004, 11:57 AM
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That Biker Looking Guy
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Bremerton Wa
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I was told that once too so I got a 6 ft tank. Accomidations arent too bad sleeping under it I guess
Jeff
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11-20-2004, 02:39 PM
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The Ninja MOD
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Planet P.....Why Me?
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You can still use a CLS and a spray bar. The spraybar would have to be designed not to disturb the substrate. For what you said you want to keep, with the softies and leather, you might actualy have a healthier system for them with the sand bed. They like some nutrients in the water as opposed to SPS. You can totaly avoid the power heads in the tank with the CLS!
Robert
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If you feel so angry, so ripped off, so stepped on,
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11-21-2004, 11:07 AM
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Human grounding probe
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Wyoming
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I am considering a DIY wet/dry of some form.
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11-21-2004, 12:38 PM
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Tune In Tokyo!
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Atlanta
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Originally Posted by Loverotties
I'm in better shape then you tabwyo.My wife said to me."If you want a bigger tank!Then it's going to have to be big enough for you to sleep in".so far I order the plexie glass to cover the walls and the floor in 2nd bed room and orderd more Scuba tanks!Ahh! to here the tanker trucks beeping in reverse to do a water change!!
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yea? my wife told me.......oh wait, im not married.............
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11-21-2004, 03:01 PM
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The Ninja MOD
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Planet P.....Why Me?
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My wife said " as long as it doesnt come out of the regular budget its ok" I just got a nice raise with my promotion. Can you say "150" ?
Robert
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If you feel so empty, so used up, so let down,
If you feel so angry, so ripped off, so stepped on,
You're not the only one refusing to back down
You're not the only one
So get up
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11-21-2004, 04:21 PM
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Human grounding probe
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Wyoming
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Don't make me drive to north cali and beat you with boiled broccolli. Actually The new stand for the 29 is so we can rearange the bedroom. I am sweetenin her up on the idea of another 55 for the bedroom.
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11-21-2004, 04:27 PM
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The Ninja MOD
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Planet P.....Why Me?
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If you look at my pics in "tank specs" you can see that I designed the stand to hold a much bigger tank! I will prolly get a 125 in a few months but the stand will take a 250 wich i will have built. Oh yes I will!!!
Robert
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If you feel so empty, so used up, so let down,
If you feel so angry, so ripped off, so stepped on,
You're not the only one refusing to back down
You're not the only one
So get up
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11-21-2004, 10:15 PM
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Human grounding probe
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Wyoming
Posts: 1,803
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Well, now due to space restrictions I have a choice between a big top off tank and no fuge or a small top off and a small fuge. I am thinkin a rubbermade tray thats 6-7" deep for the fuge. I can cram a wad of light over it and T off the overflow line to feed it. I'd put in a 2" fine sandbed kicked off with live sand activator. I think this would be a favorable environment for macro. Shallow, semi-swift and well lit. I'd just have to downsize my top off tank from a 10g to a smaller containor of some type and top it off mor often.
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11-21-2004, 10:18 PM
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Human grounding probe
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Wyoming
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Hey, how can I get in one of yer fancy pants clubs  ? Oh  ! What's the matter  ? I aint good enough?  |
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