Lionfish take over the East Coast!

tsoperator · 08-14-2006, 07:40 PM

Check out the third picture from the left. Apparently Lionfish are breeding successfully on the east coast.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,207878,00.html

partobe · 08-14-2006, 07:41 PM

very interesteing

tiburon · 08-14-2006, 07:50 PM

wow... crazy stuff. Just like the med fly.. except they're not abandoned pets.. just helped by humans to travel huge distances..

here's more info on it: http://www.nccos.noaa.gov/news/feature/1003.html

"Introduction
Lionfish introduction irreversible, NOAA research team concludes
Evidence points to the aquarium trade as the point of entry
Ecological impact, now minimal, linked to lionfish population growth
Management actions can decrease risks from marine invasions
Lionfish successes highlight risks from marine fish introductions generally"

Fly Guy · 08-14-2006, 07:54 PM

VEry interesting. As a flyfisherman as well as a business owner in the industry, i can attest to the damage that can be done. Not so much from aquarium dumps but even just from people putting fish in sytems they dont belong. There are a couple of lakes near me that used to hold large populations of very large trout. Bass being introduced to these water s in the last ten years has made the 10-20 lb trout that used to be commonplace now a rarity.

Kullas · 08-14-2006, 08:06 PM

Wow that gives ya something to think about

Bubbashrimp · 08-14-2006, 08:15 PM

I do not dump my fish or do anything against the law. I also do what ever is suggested by my heros the U.S. Fish and Wildlife. With that being said I have a question in regards to the introduction of spieces. In the long run does it really matter? Consider plate tectonics, all the land masses will eventually come together in a billion or so years anyway and spread "invaders" throught the north american continent. Survival of the fittest is the name of the game. So if we introduce something like lionfish now what difference does it make in the future when the pacific ocean collapses and they are pushed into the atlantic.

Fly Guy · 08-14-2006, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubbashrimp

I do not dump my fish or do anything against the law. I also do what ever is suggested by my heros the U.S. Fish and Wildlife. With that being said I have a question in regards to the introduction of spieces. In the long run does it really matter? Consider plate tectonics, all the land masses will eventually come together in a billion or so years anyway and spread "invaders" throught the north american continent. Survival of the fittest is the name of the game. So if we introduce something like lionfish now what difference does it make in the future when the pacific ocean collapses and they are pushed into the atlantic.

I think that it is VERY different when nature decides to create a disaster vs us doing it ourselves.

I dont want to get this off topic but its kind of like saying that nuclear war is ok because were just going to get destroyed by a meteor anyway.

Bubbashrimp · 08-14-2006, 08:26 PM

Why do you think lion fish are a disaster? Is it because they pose a danger to humans? How about humans we have spread like eurasian water milfoil have we not?

Both are preventable in some people eyes, But more importantly that is what I am saying CONTIENTAL DRIFT IS NOT!!! PREVENTABLE

Fly Guy · 08-14-2006, 08:30 PM

I was talking about the whole concept of the second half of your post, not necessarily just lionfish

thekid55 · 08-14-2006, 08:36 PM

mmmm.........

Little Luey · 08-14-2006, 09:02 PM

There is a reefer at another forum that lives in the Bermuda Islands and he also catched a lionfish at the beach. He kept it knowing that that was not originally from the area. Aquarist must be more responsible and not release fish in local waters.

Bubbashrimp · 08-14-2006, 09:46 PM

Hi, I am back, had to pick up my daughter at gymnastics. You mean my plate tectonics idea? So in you mind contenential drift would be "mother nature" and it is has the right to produce or destroy life(megalodon).

Bubbashrimp · 08-14-2006, 10:02 PM

I propose building a fence. One that could withstand Continential Drift(CD). So we can forever segregate flora and fauna from different regions of the world...Does this sound silly to anyone else?

tsoperator · 08-14-2006, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubbashrimp

I propose building a fence. One that could withstand Continential Drift(CD). So we can forever segregate flora and fauna from different regions of the world...Does this sound silly to anyone else?

You're killin' me...

Fly Guy · 08-14-2006, 10:16 PM

If you have just a dry sense of humor, i can appreciate it, although im not sure i follow your recent logic in conjunction with your first post.