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07-03-2009, 11:24 PM
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Plankton
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lights on?
does anybody have a good argument one way or the other on whether the lights should be kept on a day/night cycle for a ball of chaeto or if on all the time would be best.
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07-03-2009, 11:33 PM
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Shark
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All plants require a day/night cycle for natural respiration. IMO, a reverse daylight cycle is the best way to run lighting for a fuge.
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07-03-2009, 11:54 PM
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Son of Jor El

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Algae isn't technically a plant. My chaeto has been lit continuously for months now. IDK if it grows any faster than if I had it on a reverse cycle for months. I'm out of timers. 24 hour lighting is used with caulerpa to keep it from going sexual but chaeto won't do that.
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07-03-2009, 11:56 PM
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Tarpon
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I have 24 hour lighting on my mangroves, and they are growing like weeds in my tank.  all 56 of them.
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07-04-2009, 12:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jadinop
All plants require a day/night cycle for natural respiration. IMO, a reverse daylight cycle is the best way to run lighting for a fuge.
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I agree!
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07-04-2009, 12:08 AM
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i have a ball of chaeto in my fuge also...i was told by my LFS to leave the lights on 24 hrs...they are always giving me solid advice so I follow it...i'm interested in hearing more opinions on this thread tho...
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07-04-2009, 12:13 AM
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Tarpon
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well.....in nature......living things need rest. Its a fact of life. The only mammal I know of that doesnt sleep is a dolphin. There breathing is Involuntary, meaning they have to think about breathing to breath. Point being....without rest, nothing will reach its full potential. Just because I have 24 hour lighting doesnt make it right.....I just dont feel like buying a timer. 
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07-04-2009, 12:22 AM
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Shark
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Without light, plants and algae go through a respiration cycle that release CO2 and burns up some of the energy(food) stored during photosynthesis. To me, this is a natural part of the lifecycle and I can't see how removing it can be beneficial for the longterm health of the plant or algae.
Last I checked, Green Algaes were still considered part of the Plant Kingdom but there is some debate on the subject. Regardless of their classification, the process of photosynthesis is the same.
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07-04-2009, 12:36 AM
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Son of Jor El

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I don't know that there is any specific benefit to lighting chaeto 24/7, it certainly tolerates it and I throw half mine away every couple of weeks, but it is very small. I can see how burning up some of their energy at night could help them pull nutrients. I don't know that their respiration cycle is the same since it is not vascular. Algae is generally considered to be in Kingdom Protista, though i know at one point there was some debate over how many kingdoms there were based on genetics. It's been a long time since I took a biology class though 
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Did I ever tell you about the time Brasky went hunting? Well anyway, Brasky decides he's gonna hunt down all four members of the Banana Splits. He stalks and kills every one of them with a machete. They all beg for their lives, except Fleagul.
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07-04-2009, 09:22 AM
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Plankton
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well thanks for the replies i think i will just try a long day short night cycle and see what happens.
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07-04-2009, 10:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fihsboy
well.....in nature......living things need rest. Its a fact of life. The only mammal I know of that doesnt sleep is a dolphin. There breathing is Involuntary, meaning they have to think about breathing to breath. Point being....without rest, nothing will reach its full potential. Just because I have 24 hour lighting doesnt make it right.....I just dont feel like buying a timer. 
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Even dolphins sleep. They just do it one side of the brain at a time. They're never truly unconscious like we are, but their brains still need that down time just like ours.
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07-04-2009, 08:16 PM
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Tarpon
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Very interesting. 
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07-04-2009, 11:38 PM
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Son of Jor El

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Elegance Coral
Even dolphins sleep. They just do it one side of the brain at a time. They're never truly unconscious like we are, but their brains still need that down time just like ours.
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Somebody get me a dolphin and a bottle of scotch.... I want to run an experiment. 
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Did I ever tell you about the time Brasky went hunting? Well anyway, Brasky decides he's gonna hunt down all four members of the Banana Splits. He stalks and kills every one of them with a machete. They all beg for their lives, except Fleagul.
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07-05-2009, 04:56 PM
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cellular respiration is what releases the Oxygen into the system i dont see how by running lights 24/7 will harm them without light they cant produce food/oxygen. and for a plant needing rest just not so sure about that.
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07-06-2009, 08:56 PM
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Shark
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Photosynthesis has both a light and dark phase.
I run 16 hours of day and 8 hours of night on my fuge. The 24/7 lighting just seems unnatural to me.
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