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02-03-2009, 09:31 AM
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Kiss my Fish
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Lawrence, Massachusetts
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lace rock issue.. pls help
ok.. so i just bought 30lbs of premium live rock online and it turns out to be a scam.. they send me lace rock instead.. the website is intmarinefish.com (just so you aware).. my tank is 125gL and already having avarage amount of live rock in there... i placed those lace rocks in my tank yesterday and don't know if it would do any damage to my tank??? i heard that it would be better to seed those lace rock without any fish in the tank.. but it's impossible for me to do it because it's hard to catch all of them out so that's not my option.. is there any other way i can minimize the damage to the tank while those lace rocks are being seeded by my live rock?? macro algae plants or any plants for example that i should get? your help will be greatly appreciated. 
PS: u know how long it should take for the lace rock to become live rock ? thanks
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02-03-2009, 09:52 AM
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BIG SMELLY MOD
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Denham Springs, LA
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I have a Question, Was the rock dry?
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02-03-2009, 10:08 AM
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Dedicated Reef Adict
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Racine, Wi
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ok man its not going to hurt ur system...depending on if the rock was wet or dry when you got it ... thats going to be ur biggest concern. if it was wet and running in a system already then there is a good chance that the shipping will cause some die off and you could get spikes of nitrites/ nitrates and amonia...but thats from the rock curing . you dont have to take your fish out , the only way i have ever seeded live rock waas just scraping coraline algea off the back of the tank and letting it do it own thing. if ur really that concerend about it ten cook the rock if it was wet. dry rock should be fine everything would be dead on it....just dip it in saltware adn rinse it good befor adding it to ur system. if have fish and stuff in ur system this isnt a new tank so ... i dont know hor your going to incorporate that into ur base rock but your going to have ur work cut out for u doig that. if u payed plr prices and got lace rock then send it back most net places have a verry good return policy of doa products or something thats not what you bought. jsut take a breath and everything wil be fine.
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02-03-2009, 12:04 PM
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originally original
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Alabama
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It's OK to put it in the tank, but if I was you, I'd run GFO for the next month or two to avoid an algae bloom.
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02-03-2009, 12:36 PM
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photomod
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Montana
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If they sold you lace rock at live rock prices you should contact them for a partial refund. Lace rock (aka dead, dry rock) should be around $1 a pound shipped.
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02-03-2009, 12:50 PM
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originally original
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Alabama
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Did you order Vanuatu rock and they sent you lace rock? if so I'd be red pissed, they need to send you some dough for sure.
I saw on their order page they do have lace rock for $125 shipped, did you order that by accident?
http://intmarinefish.com/liverock.html |
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02-03-2009, 03:41 PM
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Kiss my Fish
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Lawrence, Massachusetts
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I did not order lace rock by accident for sure. they are just simply scam.
@VWD & Mitchmac: it came wet. is it a good or bad sign? what should i do?
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02-03-2009, 03:50 PM
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originally original
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Alabama
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Have you called them?
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02-03-2009, 10:49 PM
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Non-Hypocritical
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Hillbillyville Alabama
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Contact them and tell them you want your money back.
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02-04-2009, 12:21 AM
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photomod
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Montana
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Are you sure it was lace rock? Lace rock is dead; as in bone dry, no life whatsoever.
From you explanation of it being wet, I would think it's uncured live rock. Do you happen to have pictures?
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02-04-2009, 12:58 AM
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Dedicated Reef Adict
Join Date: May 2008
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lace rock isnt allways sold dry some ppl who sell it cycle it to try to create live rock out of it it is just a cheaper way of a somewhat legit scam...saying they have top of the line lr because it has coraline algea on it...does that make sense???anywho...with any shipped live/lace rock there is going to be some amount of die off due to time without light, hitting hte air, shipping stress and handling ect. you always wanna cycle lr if possible...i have bought all mine direct from LFS and the only amount of time its out of the water is in travel from store to home...you can put it in ur tank and just let the cycle go how its naturally going ot go ... thats with anything you put in ur tank...yes as there is going to be some amount of die off on the rock so you can expect the amonia level to jump a bit maybe a little hair algea and cyno break but give ur clean up crew a chance to attack it its not an all out loss...if u paid for cured top of the ine live rock dont expect to get a refund if there is coraline algea on it ... if it looke like wet lime stone then def go after your money or use it as base rock ... if ur that worried about it cook the rock ..or... use a maxi jes or something in a bucket of saltwater and blow the stuff clean...either way ther eis going to be a certain abount of curing since it has ben in the air and packaging for as long as it has. just look at it some pics owuld be nice and i can give you more advice when i see wha your working with
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02-04-2009, 02:58 AM
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Non-Hypocritical
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Hillbillyville Alabama
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Whether its dry rock that was merely wet, dry rock that was seeded, dry rock that was cured, cured rock or whatever it is. If you aren't happy with the purchase, you contact the vendor.
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02-04-2009, 11:16 AM
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Kiss my Fish
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Lawrence, Massachusetts
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thanks guys.. i'll try to take some pictures to show u guys later.. but i can describe the rock i got in 1 word..."WHITE".. and i mean white.. not tan... and it's still wet when arrived..!! Hopefully they'll be seeded by the live rocks and change their color later.. do you guys know about what percentage the lace rock will be successfully become live? and how long it normally take to do it? and.. does it look like live rock then? srry.. im kinda a newbie..
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02-04-2009, 11:30 AM
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photomod
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Montana
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All lace rock will become live. It usually takes around 3 months to become fully "operational" as in it will contain the normal amount of denitrifying bacteria. You should start seeing good amount of coralline growth as well.
I would suggest buying a small chunk from your LFS just to make sure it properly seeds.
Call them and complain, threaten to cancel the payment. It sounds like they ripped you off.  |
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02-04-2009, 02:52 PM
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Kiss my Fish
Join Date: Feb 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wharyat
All lace rock will become live. It usually takes around 3 months to become fully "operational" as in it will contain the normal amount of denitrifying bacteria. You should start seeing good amount of coralline growth as well.
I would suggest buying a small chunk from your LFS just to make sure it properly seeds.
Call them and complain, threaten to cancel the payment. It sounds like they ripped you off. |
wow.. 3 months  that's a pretty good amount of time  so after 3 months will it look completely like live rock ?? and btw.. what u meant by saying buying a small chunk ?
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