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Old 06-21-2001, 01:37 AM   #1
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what is the best way to use kalkwasser

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Dripped from an IV bag style doser or any system that minimizes contact with air, as the CO2 will cause calcium carbonate precipitation and lowered pH in the mix, reducing its effectiveness. Since its about pH 12 it needs to be dripped in slowly
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Use Kalkwasser as a slow drip to replace your total evaporation. It is chemically calcium hydroxide/calcium oxide, and is the very same product as pickling lime (Mrs. Wages or Ball pickling limes). Your goal is to make a saturated solution of calcium hydroxide using one to two tablespoons of lime to each gallon of RO/DI or equivalent water, placed in a closed container and agitated for 3 to 5 minutes to reach saturation. Upon settling for 10 minutes, this will end up with a solution that is a little milky at the bottom with a clear supernatant. Best to use the supernatant solution via a closed system (i.e., collapsing bag like an enteral feeding bag and set with a roller clamp to allow the solution to drip in over a few hours). The reason for leaving this sustem closed is that atmospheric carbon dioxide will react with calcium hydroxide to form calcium carbonate and water. The calcium carbonate is VERY insuluble in aqueous solutions (water based solutions), and will precipitate out a good deal of the calcium we are trying to put in the water column, making it unavailable to the corals. (You can see this readily by blowing your breath through a piece of air line immersed in the solution, it will immediately begin to turn milky white.) The ideal situation would be to use a dosing pump to administer the approximate amount of replacement solution at the same rate of evaporation, but many aquarists find that they prefer to drip the total 24 hour replacement volume from 3 to 7 am, when the pH of the tank is at the lowest part of its daily cycle and will benefit the tank with its pH boost. I am not sure this is actually true (totally conjecture on my part), but as skeletalization does not occur at any significant levels during periods without photosynthesis, dosing at approximately 2 to 3 hours before the photoperiod starts should be the best time, as it has a chance for the calcium to reach the calcioblastic cells via transcellular diffusion and begin the calcification process, so that the "scaffold" built during the dark periods (calcification only) can then be completed with brick and mortar (the actual skeletalization of the building process) during periods of photosynthesis.

Even better would be to use a Nilsen Kalk reactor, but that is another story altogether. Might want to check Bill-E's web page for the story on this process, I'm sure Bill would not mind the hits on his site. I am currently experimenting with the use of Bill's modifications with my own modifications to this unit to use it as an auto top-off system while still maintaining the slow drip necessary to prevent sudden shifts in pH.

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If your not familiar with the IV drip method that Doug and Tom mentioned, I have a DIY page with more info on this at: http://people.mn.mediaone.net/reefta...rip_system.htm

While at Fleet Farm buying more syringes (great for measuring addatives)I noticed a calf feeder bag that holds about 2 1/2 gallons that I might pick-up and experiment with. Sort of the big-brother of the saline IV bags that only hold 1000ml
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how much does a kalkwasser dripper go for, and if im using b-ionic , doi used kalkwasser too for top off water? doug, thank you for a great elaborate summary of what i needed to know. you dont know how much i love this forum. i think they should start a chat room on here as well.
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Dont know on cost, I recycle medical stuff
We do have a chat room tho not many people use it. Post on the board if you want to chat some of us are usually available to talk in real time
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