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Old 08-21-2009, 01:36 PM   #1
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INSANE water readings???? Please advise


Cycling new 90 with uncured live rock. Rock has been taken out and scrubbed several times. Cycle has gone fairly fast so far. Testing water every 3 days. The test last night showed Nitrites at 1 and Nitrates at 160!! Don't thing the test is faulty as it showed in previous test nitrates slowly coming up. I know it is normal to have nitrates but have never had them shoot up like this. No livestock in the tank so no problem with that. Just curious what could be the cause as their is nothing that has ever been fed in the tank. Should I do a water change or just wait till the nitrites go away? What could have caused the nitrates to jump so high. PLEASE HELP!

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100 lbs live rock 3 in sand bed under live rock
6 inch sand bed in refugium with variuous algae and mangrove plus live rock rubble.
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Old 08-21-2009, 02:04 PM   #2
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...No livestock in the tank so no problem with that. Just curious what could be the cause as their is nothing that has ever been fed in the tank. Should I do a water change or just wait till the nitrites go away? What could have caused the nitrates to jump so high?
This is normal from die-off on the rock in a new system with new live rock. The new live rock often brings in many organisms that will not live in a closed system, as well as the die-off due to collection/shipping processing of the rock (holding at the dock, or sometimes it may sit in a box on the tarmac at an airport for hours in hot sunlight).

If it really concerns you, then it's time for a large percentage WC, then monitor nitrate as your sandbed and rock begins to denitrify available nitrate. This is not necessary however, as the nitrate load is a stimuant to anaerobic bacteria in the deeper parts of the sand bed and the core of live rock. Their populations will catch up with the nitrate load and you should see the nitrates drop off as these denitrifying bacteria begin to process nitrate. The water change IS beneficial in removing phosphate to prevent sinking in your sand and rock, as there are no means of biological phosphate dissipation as here is with nitrogen gas that results from the denitrification process. It might be a good idea to use GFO with a reactor if your die-off produced this much nitrate (because if the nitrate is high, then phosphate will also be proportionally high, Redfield ratio is ~106:16:1, bacteria and algae will scavenge the free phosphate or it will be adsorbed to calcareous substrates), and not worry about the nitrate.

Slow to start, but effective.


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Old 08-21-2009, 10:38 PM   #3
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Thank for the info. I thought about the info however phosphate reading is .25 sorry i forgot to mention that in the first post. Any ideas?
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I would just wait it out. Sounds to me like die off like mentioned above. I would get a small power head and blow off the rock daily to get all that gunk out of the tank. And run as much mechanical filtration as you can for now, and maybe skim on the wet side for a while.
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