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Old 07-17-2011, 10:28 PM   #1
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I cant get rid of hair algae!


Hey everyone i have a 36 gallon reef tank and i cant get rid of my hair algae. I have a canister filter that i am just using as a chemical holder and i have phosphate remover in it and i also have a protein skimmer that is doing a great job i am not over feeding at all. My main question is what do i do to get rid of the hair algae! I was thinking of getting a phosban reactor would that do the trick?
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Old 07-17-2011, 11:37 PM   #2
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I have a fix for hair algea, but you won't like it, to fix it will take alot of effort on your part, and I might add that algae issues are the number one reason folks leave the hobby...
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Old 07-18-2011, 09:47 AM   #3
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alright how do i do it ? and dont worry i have spent way to much money to just want to get rid of my tank
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Old 07-18-2011, 09:51 AM   #4
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how old is the tank? if under a year, algae blooms are going to happen.

have you read this thread yet all the way through?

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Yeah my tank is under a year old
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have you read through the thread yet?

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Old 07-19-2011, 09:58 AM   #7
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And yes i have read threw the threads i just wanted some more feed back and some info about phosban reactors
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what else did you want to know about them, that was not covered in that thread? they are a band aid. they do not solve the problem, they just mask it. you will just need to keep buying more and more of the media in order to keep absorbing the phosphates you are not removing by not siphoning the sand bed regularly.

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I have a fix for hair algea, but you won't like it, to fix it will take alot of effort on your part, and I might add that algae issues are the number one reason folks leave the hobby...
Ok, now I'm curious. What's your fix?
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so you dont think adding a phosban reactor would solve the hair algae problem ?
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so you dont think adding a phosban reactor would solve the hair algae problem ?
No, it won't solve the problem, it will only hide the symptoms.
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Old 07-19-2011, 11:09 AM   #12
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Ok, now I'm curious. What's your fix?
+1 to this, and +1 to geoff, they are just band-aids, and poor ones at that.
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phosban aint cheap either. Solve your nutrient problem first.
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If the HA is on the glass. I just use a recirculating siphon into my sump filter sock to catch all the stuff. Just use the rim of the plastic siphon to break the hold fast on the glass and it is sucked up by the inflow.

For HA on the rocks, it depends on how bad the case it. for spot treatments, I take some 3% hydrogen peroxide and drop a few drops onto the location and let it fizz for a minute. That kills it dead. the rock is out of the water for a bit though.

For larger issues. (thankfully i've neevr had to resort to this) I would take the rock out. take a rough scrub brush and scrub scrub scrub. Then I'll drip more H2O2 on hard to get or stubborn areas.
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My tank is under a year old, have had very good maintenance, weekly except for the past month(another deal altogether) nitrates 0 phosphates 0 ammonia 0 calcium 500 dkh 8 ph 8.3. All these are common readings for me and i have had hair for a little while now, it is getting out of control. I am stepping up my water changes back to once a week(for the past month been busy only could do a couple small ones for the whole month)i got my own rodi unit making 000 ppm water so i know thats good(this is a new addition, was using LFS water, then distilled now my own rodi) The crevice where my anemone who was doin so great has hair in it, and now he hasnt fully opened in a while, last night for the first time he wont eat.

I said that to say this, the problem i have had with my aquarium have never been solved over night, it takes time. I am changing 10 or more gallons of water a week indefinitely until i get good results. make sure your salt is good, test the water before you add it to your tank. check for phosphates and nitrates.

The thing with the canitster i have been running mine the entire time with only floss, changing it out every week. This past long run with no water change i shut it down altogether because i knew it was full of junk, i separated the lines from the tank.

Even tho i kept the canister my nitrates stayed at 0, phosphates took some time but they came to zero... but like the reading geoff recommened you cannot test for phosphates that are already bound, you also cannot remove phosphates that get bound to hair or other algae before they get removed. also there are more than one kind of phosphate, only one can be tested for and only one can be removed(they are the same form i do believe)... So with algae i have to assume i have a phosphate and nitrate problem.. but it doesnt show up in testing, so where could it be... its getting bound in the algae and other places before my testing equipment can find it.. i am getting 0 readings with more algae coming up weekly.. so with good flow in the rocks, regular siphonings of the sand and substrate, good flow in the open area of my tank(i also have a power head built in to the rocks blowing everything out of there)i also clean my rock with a power head often, where does the nitrates and phosphates come from that feed the algae? The only thing i can imagine is the canister, even tho its only running floss, and i only run it for a week it has to be a source of nitrates and phosphates feeding my algae.

I know that was kind of a ramble, i hope you understand what i am saying tho... A regular or even and UPDATED maintenace plan, maybe do like me and consider getting rid of the can, skimm wetter, siphon more, things like that. Find where the residual nutrients are coming from and stop them.

It also depend on what you are keeping, if you keep softies like shrooms and zoas you want some nutrients they do better that way. if you are keeping sps then you want to obliterate all nitrate sources. The thing is i cant find a balance between happy soft coral and no hair algae....

Its hard issue, am following along to see what everyone else says...
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