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Old 09-02-2010, 04:37 AM   #1
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How should I fix my cloudy water?


Hello guys, I am starting a new 20 gal nano and didnt have anywhere to mix the saltwater besides the tank itself. Long story short, I added Caribsea Caribbean Direct Oolite Live Sand after the salt mixed (24hr) and then now have a problem with cloudy water. I added my live rock after about a hour of waiting for it to clear and then added the solution it came with to help clear the water but nothing happened.

The problem is that I am trying to only use a biological filter through 20lb of live sand and 21lb of Live Rock. Should I..

1. Buy a HOB Filter, looking at the Eheim Liberty 150 filter. Reviews say its good bang for the buck.

2. Turn off my Korilia Nano 425gph powerhead and wait? I think that the clearing solution should be mixed in by now (its been about 3 hours of mixing). However, I do not think that it will clear by itself like this.

Also, is it OK to do water tests when it is this cloudy/milky with silts and crap all over the water?
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Old 09-02-2010, 05:18 AM   #2
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Hello guys, I am starting a new 20 gal nano and didnt have anywhere to mix the saltwater besides the tank itself. Long story short, I added Caribsea Caribbean Direct Oolite Live Sand after the salt mixed (24hr) and then now have a problem with cloudy water. I added my live rock after about a hour of waiting for it to clear and then added the solution it came with to help clear the water.

The problem is that I am trying to only use a biological filter through 20lb of live sand and 21lb of Live Rock. Should I..

1. Buy a HOB Filter, looking at the Eheim Liberty 150 filter. Reviews say its good bang for the buck.

2. Turn off my Korilia Nano 425gph powerhead and wait? I think that the clearing solution should be mixed in by now (its been about 3 hours of mixing). However, I do not think that it will clear by itself like this.
OK if I read this right you let the salt mix in the tank for 24 hrs? (thats a good Thing(

Then you added oolitic live sand? Oolitic sand is sugar sized grain with a lot of fine particles that tend to float around in the water kike smoke in the air. Turning off your powerhead for about 48 hrs will let a lot but probably not all settle out. As soon as you fire it back up all the fines on the surface of the sand and all over the rock will stir back up. i would take a new turkey baster and squirt off the rocks to clear it off them, then let the tank sit for a week or so, bacteria s it colonizes will eventually form a bio film on the sand that will help bind it and minimize the cloudy effect, but if it severly cloudy you may have to resort to mechanical filtration to remove the suspended solids(fines) A canister filter is usefull for this as well as some other tasks. I have used the Magnum 350 , not the Ehiem or Fluvals, but a canister with multi media capability can be a great maint tool, used with appropriete media and cleaned FREQUENTLY
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Old 09-02-2010, 06:19 AM   #3
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great information, thanks! I am probably just going to bite the bullet and buy the Eheim HOB liberty filter for $15:
http://www.marinedepot.com/Eheim_Han...EH2041-vi.html

I live close to their warehouse so I could just go to their will-call pick up tomorrow.
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Old 09-02-2010, 07:08 AM   #4
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Ohh I had one more question, would it be fine to use the HOB filter and then remove the filter after the water has cleared? I still want to use my live rock and sand as the natural biological filtration media
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You don't really need the filter, even just to get the water to clear. It will clear on its own, you just need to wait.
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I would just wait it out. A filter will help a little but won't make that big of a difference. I have a 55g and it took about 3 days for my sand to settle after I added my water.
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Old 09-02-2010, 09:32 AM   #7
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I would just wait it out. A filter will help a little but won't make that big of a difference. I have a 55g and it took about 3 days for my sand to settle after I added my water.
I agree, 2-4 days depending on the type of sand and the flow you have going on in the tank. I've found that filters are more trouble than they are worth on a marine tank.
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I haven't gotten up the confidence to do it without a filter yet, lol.
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Like many, I kept freshwater fish first, and had many old habits to break when I started doing reef tanks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Method

The above article helps, in my opinion, to get us to understand that in a reef tank we still filter, we just do it differently, meaning naturally.
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i find that turning off all water flow will help it settle. you should not mix the salt in the tank once u have fish. i also have a pump that i pump water back into the tank with, i place it in my external filter, so it does not hit the sand. i do not have sand in my saltwater tank but i do have sand in an south american cichlid tank, its sand from siesta key the 2nd top beach in the us. and if u have ever been there u know how fine the sand is. ( never thought i would get away with the sand in a fresh water tank but it works fine.)
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Thanks for all the suggestions guys! i really appreciate it.

I did notice that a lot of the fine stuff floating and clouding the water has cleared a bit. However, there is layers of the fine particles on all of the live rocks. I am scared that once I start up the powerheads or try cleaning the rocks with a turkey baster the water will get cloudy again so I ordered the Ehiem Liberty filter today from marinedepot.com and will be picking it up in about a hour.

Hope my water will clear completely after using the filter for a day or two. I will post some pics of my set up after its clear and pretty again haha
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what i do as well is about every 12 hrs skim the scum off the top with a slotted spoon (my wife doesn't know about this) this will help everything settle faster.
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what i do as well is about every 12 hrs skim the scum off the top with a slotted spoon (my wife doesn't know about this) this will help everything settle faster.
Haha, yea i noticed there was a lot of that foam and did the same.
Does anyone know if keeping the water cloudy/murky for more than 3-4 days it will kill the live rock and live sand?? I wasn't able to pick up the filter after school today.
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Haha, yea i noticed there was a lot of that foam and did the same.
Does anyone know if keeping the water cloudy/murky for more than 3-4 days it will kill the live rock and live sand?? I wasn't able to pick up the filter after school today.
It won't kill your LR or LS. All the cloudiness is, is an eye sore. Its not going to hurt the tank in any way, just make it unattractive to look at for a few days. When I set up my tank, I left the lights off until it cleared up. You will be straight by Sunday IMO
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You will be fine like said above it will settle it's just an eyesore
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