how many of these guys can i put in a 29gal

Confused Korean · 07-12-2006, 03:20 PM

so, is it ok if i get one of each of the fish that i have mentioned? clown gobies citris/greens, cardinals, blennies, and maybe just clownfish? how many of each?
how many crabs/shrimp/starfish?

Jeremy1973 · 07-12-2006, 03:32 PM

First off..your little animated signature is funny.

As for your question.. how much LR do you have to help with bioload? For a 29 gal, I don't know if I would go more then 3 fish. My 2 clowns did a good job of taking up most of the space in my 20 gal tank. So my worry would be that the fist would feel crowded, and thus stressed, and thus get ill. Clown gobies stay small, so no problem there. As for the blennies, cardinals, and clown.. I would pick 2 out of the 3. Just my 2 cents. I like to play it on the conservative side.

Twitterbait · 07-12-2006, 04:00 PM

Oh my gosh that is the coolest Gif i have seen in a while.

... that may be too many fish. your good for a standard of 3" of fish. i would not do mor that 3-4 total fish in the tank and only if they are small.

AdamG · 07-12-2006, 06:57 PM

I agree, too many fish IMO for 1 29 gal

jenajet · 07-12-2006, 07:17 PM

Yep 3 or 4 max.

mitchelWB · 07-12-2006, 10:16 PM

that is an awesome signature gif! Get 'em fido! As far as fish... yup, what they said.

Confused Korean · 07-12-2006, 10:42 PM

hmmm.. so i gotta decide which ones i like the most, heh. so, a spotted orange goby, i know i wanna get. any other suggestions? i know i want a starfish, if those even count as fish and a hermit crab.

salt creepette · 07-12-2006, 10:53 PM

make sure you get the orange spot shrimp goby (amblyeleotris guttata) and NOT the orangespotted sleeper goby (valenciennea puellaris). The last one I mentioned will almost assuredly starve in a small system (they need large quantities of self-replenishing live substrate for constant food supply). also, most starfish need larger quantities of LR to forage/feed on than can be held in a 29 gallon. in shimeks (the invert expert) invert book, he recommends sea stars go into systems no less than 100 gallons large. (If you are going to try a seastar, at least make sure your system has been established for a year or more.)The exception is the brittle or serpent stars, which are sometimes/most cases predatory on fish, detritus, etc.

if it was me, I'd do the shrimp goby and symbiont shrimp, a rarer species of clown (maybe a pair) and a blenny (your choice, pick one which does well in captivity and dont get one that nips clams/corals if you plan on keeping them)

Confused Korean · 07-12-2006, 11:46 PM

preciate the help guys. man, im learning alot.

Confused Korean · 07-13-2006, 12:38 AM

another question, how many fish can i go with if i get a 6incher will they survive? im guessing like 2 or so. could i get one 6incher and then like 2-3 3"inchers? or would that be overcrowded.

dobejazz · 07-13-2006, 01:15 AM

I would think 6" total ( adult length) would max out your system. If you over stock be prepared to up your water change schedule

DaviesPats · 07-13-2006, 01:35 AM

goby idea here...bar gobies...they get to be about 3.5-4" but they arent any thinker than a twig so you can keep 2 or 3 them and have your shrimp and clown pair...just need lots of LR for hiding and bio-load clean-up

salt creepette · 07-13-2006, 12:01 PM

good call on the zebra dart gobies/bar gobies, they are really neat!

if you go with a fish that is 6 inches, just make sure you dont pick one thats super active and needs a lot of swimming room

From someone who's already made the mistake....I actually have quite overstocked my 55 gallon, and whereas I love the fish I have and won't get rid of any (what Ive got in there seems to be working), I would like to have a cleaner, less busy tank. so choose carefully. and remember you have your whole life in the hobby to keep all the different fish you want to keep at different times/tanks.

Confused Korean · 07-13-2006, 12:37 PM

so could i have like 1 lazy 6incher, and then like 2 3inchers?

salt creepette · 07-13-2006, 12:40 PM

well I dont know, it depends WHICH fish you choose! If you do like I did and get an anthias which requires tons of food constantly, youre going to regret it. (I no longer have the anthias). throw out some specific fish combinations and we will comment. do you have the book 'Marine Fishes: 500 essential to know aquariums pecies?' If not, that is literally my fish bible. you need to get one!

to answer your question strictly speaking, that might be ok, but you need to check food and space requirements and compatibility, also with the other corals/motile inverts you plan on keeping. (there is a companion book called Marine Invertibrates you need to get for that purpose.)