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Old 11-22-2009, 11:17 AM   #1
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How large is your clean up crew?


Ok, so I have been reading about getting hermits and snails etc. I see some recommend 1-2 inverts per gallon. That seems NUTS to me. I can see 1 per 5 gallons, or so, then again at this point I only have an artificial bioload. What should I start with now that my tank has almost completed its cycle? Does anyone really keep 55-110 inverts in a 55 gal tank?
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Old 11-22-2009, 11:40 AM   #2
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The people writing snail/crab per gallon are usually the ones selling them. If you see a 55 gallon kit... it is probably about double what is needed. So ideally I say about a 25 or 30 gallon "kit" is what is more appropriate for a 55.

As for what I have in my tank I really don't know for sure anymore. I added the recommended amount (too many), and there are now extra shells everywhere, but there are also smaller snails everywhere from breeding. I have also set up a 10 that I pirated snails and crabs from so I have lost track of what is where
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Old 11-22-2009, 11:44 AM   #3
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i ordered 25 blue leg hermits and a small assortment of snails 8 for my 75gal.
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Old 11-22-2009, 11:51 AM   #4
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Do they eat that slow, or is there that much waste for them to stay happy? I was thinking about 5 hermits and 5-10 snails for the 55 gal. How stocked are each of your tanks fish and coral? Should I add clean up as the bio load gets larger or start with the whole wrecking crew? I was going to do a FOWLR, now im really entertaining the idea of a good bit of coral and approx 5-6 fish.
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Old 11-22-2009, 11:57 AM   #5
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I was warned to avoid putting crabs and snails together. Decided to go all snails (although a disguised blue leg hermit found its way in). John at ReefCleaners.org is great and will design a custom crew for you based on your specs and desires. Good luck!
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Old 11-22-2009, 11:59 AM   #6
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SOme folks go crab free, since crabs can be opportunistic and may pick off a crab or two periodically. I like hermits for interesting antics and they do make quick work of a dead fish (not great if it is under warranty). I may put in more snails that that to help keep algae under control. I tend to put it in as a group if I am ordering online. If you are picking them up locally there is no reason to do so and you can always add more later as you see a need for them.
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Old 11-22-2009, 12:04 PM   #7
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My personal choice has been about 1 snail per gallon and 1 hermit per 2 gallons.
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I have a few thousand snails, about 30 hermits, 2 brittle stars, one shrimp and billions of pods and bristle worms in a 300 gallon system.
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hop were those wanted bristle worms?
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hop were those wanted bristle worms?
Sure. They are a great part of the cleanup crew. I don't have any longer than about 2-3" (That I have seen... famous last words ). I never see any in the display because they become food, but I have a ton in the fuge.
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i had a few in a piece of my LR, i heard they were bad news so i shocked them out, and gave them a fresh water swirly grave. Can they be useful? They are really ugly little suckers.
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i had a few in a piece of my LR, i heard they were bad news so i shocked them out, and gave them a fresh water swirly grave. Can they be useful? They are really ugly little suckers.
Yes they are great detritus consumers. Obviously most people don't want the 12" ones cruising around and you need to make sure of the type of bristle worm, but they have a important place in the tank IMO.
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:44 PM   #13
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in my 125 gallon i have the following:

1 long spine urchin
6 large nassarius snails
5 small nassarius snails
5 banded trochus
1 turbo snail
2 skunk cleaner shrimp

i am probably going to be bumping up the number of snails quite a bit.
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Yes they are great detritus consumers. Obviously most people don't want the 12" ones cruising around and you need to make sure of the type of bristle worm, but they have a important place in the tank IMO.
I agree, 99% (some say I need another .9 or .99) are good critters to have. Polychelates (commonly bristle or fireworms) is a huge group of animals and there are a few predatory ones. If I laid awake at night wondering if any of my tiny ones are predatory I would never sleep. They get a bad rap for the rare predatory worm, the fact that they are no fun to pet (bristles sting), and often people will find a beloved fish dead and covered with them leading them to blame the janitor as the murderer.
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My FOWLR tank has bristle worms. They do the trick with detritus, but I find them unsightly (and they irritate my fingers if I touch them when cleaning filters).

My reef tank has predominantly snails and a Sea Hare.
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