Hop's downgrade to 300 gallons: A simple build thread

[motorslave]

Hop, we are all strange! If the tanks all over the driveway, PVC and drilling glass dont freek em out, the strange glow of powerfull lights will! Everything else just confirms it!

[Hop]

that is a good point.

[Wiskey]

Originally Posted by Hop

You want my modded 8-2 for your 8-2? Sounds like a good deal! Mine has a small crack from where the previous owner dropped it. It's been fixed with weldon and works just as good though

I do love that skimmer though. If I didn't mention earlier, it is a custom made GEO recirc. It's 2" taller than the mass produced 46" tall version, the feed is higher so that I could add the elbows inside the body for the downward feed without worrying about unprocessed water making it out of the skimmer and it helps stabalize the foam head. Also the neck is longer than the mass produced one

That's not what I ment,.. I want the one in the picture
How fast do you push water through that thing?

Do you have any idea what the GPH out of the modded 8-2 skimmer is? Is there anyway for you to get a gallon jug under it and time how long it takes to fill it?

That is one nice Geo you have there it will work wonders on the smaller tank I bet.

Whiskey

[Wiskey]

Originally Posted by Hop

Well the 70 gallon acrylic tank has a very small leak in one of the bottom corners. So I'm draining it right now and will break out the weld-on 16 in the morning. Otherwise I think it's good to go. I just need some foam to put under it and it can be placed in it's new home and plumbed!

That stinks did you build it? Or buy it? Having 70G of RO water on hand will be really nice though, I'm limited to 20, mainly because it's about what my fridge can support.

Whiskey

[Wiskey]

Originally Posted by Hop

Thanks mike! I guess it's a downgrade as I had to get rid of the 370 gallon display


So I got distracted by trt and flooded the wetroom It really will hold water until it starts pouring out the door! 20 minutes with the wet vac and the floor is now mopped

Glad your wet room holds water! That is a really nice trick, I wish I had a wet room to do that with, my carpet is all that holds my water.

Good work on the flood! That's the perfect way to break in a new system.

Whiskey

[Hop]

Originally Posted by Wiskey

That's not what I ment,.. I want the one in the picture
How fast do you push water through that thing?

Do you have any idea what the GPH out of the modded 8-2 skimmer is? Is there anyway for you to get a gallon jug under it and time how long it takes to fill it?

That is one nice Geo you have there it will work wonders on the smaller tank I bet.

Whiskey

For the 450 system I was pushing about 700 gph through it. For this build with approx 300 gallons total, I want to slow it down to 250-500gph and see how it does.

I have no clue on the 8-2, the water throughput is definately lower than stock with the mods, but the air has to be double. just looking at it I'm guessing around 150gph... But I stress that is a SWAG!

[Hop]

Originally Posted by Wiskey

That stinks did you build it? Or buy it? Having 70G of RO water on hand will be really nice though, I'm limited to 20, mainly because it's about what my fridge can support.

Whiskey

Nah, I built it. It was not up to my normal par as I was one week out of surgery and medicated. I needed to get off the couch and I built something with some acrylic I had laying around. I'm not worried about it splitting, I just need to throw some 16 on it It doesn't have to be pretty as you only be able to see one seam and less than half the tank when it's in.

I'm guessing that 70 gallons should last about a week in the summer and 10-12 days in the winter so hopefully I'll only have to make water once a week. With the 450 I was making it every four days with only a 44 gallon brute as the reserve.

[Wiskey]

Originally Posted by Hop

For the 450 system I was pushing about 700 gph through it. For this build with approx 300 gallons total, I want to slow it down to 250-500gph and see how it does.

I have no clue on the 8-2, the water throughput is definately lower than stock with the mods, but the air has to be double. just looking at it I'm guessing around 150gph... But I stress that is a SWAG!

That's not going to do very well is it? I'd be turning my system over less than once an hour,.. maybe I could do the 9000 or the OR 3700 with the mesh mod? Then I could still push plenty of water through and have the massive ammount of air.

You shoot for 1-2X system turnover through the skimmer? Why is that?

Thanks!
Whiskey

[Hop]

Originally Posted by Wiskey

Glad your wet room holds water! That is a really nice trick, I wish I had a wet room to do that with, my carpet is all that holds my water.

Good work on the flood! That's the perfect way to break in a new system.

Whiskey

Thanks! and it's so like me to do something stupid like that! Oh well

So when are we all coming down and building whiskey's wetroom?

[Wiskey]

Originally Posted by Hop

Thanks! and it's so like me to do something stupid like that! Oh well

So when are we all coming down and building whiskey's wetroom?

Your not alone,.. I did the same thing with my Python,.. had to tell the lady next door that my sink blew up It doesn't take much water for it to make it into the next apt.

You can drop by anytime you want,.. I even have a couch you can crash on, but the wet room will have to wait until I find a job willing to pay me enough so I can get a house.

Whiskey

[Wiskey]

Batt on the laptop is flat, and I need to crash anyway,.. I'll check back tomorrow!

Whiskey

[Hop]

Originally Posted by Wiskey

That's not going to do very well is it? I'd be turning my system over less than once an hour,.. maybe I could do the 9000 or the OR 3700 with the mesh mod? Then I could still push plenty of water through and have the massive ammount of air.

You shoot for 1-2X system turnover through the skimmer? Why is that?

Thanks!
Whiskey

The 3700 with a mesh may do the trick! Keep in mind that my 5000 is about 6 years old and tired! Also I changed out the volute with one that only has a .75" intake for water and a 5/16" inner diameter air intake. I wanted more air If I put the stock volute back on it, which I still drilled out a tad, I'm sure I could get over 200 from it.

I've played around with the slower turn over in the skimmers from what I could derive from the oriental sites with thos incredible SPS displays. There seems to be a mix between large NW with slower throughput and massive becketts.

I found on the last tank I was pulling out some nastier stuff. Still filling the cup just as fast, but the stuff I was pulling would gag a plumber. On this build I'm sure I'll go back to playing and seeing what works best as I'm sure this one will be completely different from the last tank.

[Hop]

Originally Posted by Wiskey

Your not alone,.. I did the same thing with my Python,.. had to tell the lady next door that my sink blew up It doesn't take much water for it to make it into the next apt.

You can drop by anytime you want,.. I even have a couch you can crash on, but the wet room will have to wait until I find a job willing to pay me enough so I can get a house.

Whiskey

Oh man that's funny. I had similiar issues when my old 75 let loose and I lived in a town home Management was not happy!

Well let me know when your ready to move! We'll get the wetroom in before the moving crew gets the furniture it!

[motorslave]

Sooooooo Hop, what are you going to do today? (nudge nudge)

[Wiskey]

Originally Posted by Hop

Oh man that's funny. I had similiar issues when my old 75 let loose and I lived in a town home Management was not happy!

Well let me know when your ready to move! We'll get the wetroom in before the moving crew gets the furniture it!

I am the moving crew

I'm really lucky actualy, the lady that lives next door to me is very nice, I used to hang out with her daughtor all the time, but I haven't seen Angie in years. Anyway, she doesn't care about music, or appernetly water, provided it doesn't get too over the top.

Whiskey